Breeder wont take puppy back

I have a 9 week old oes pup and for personal reasons I cant keep her. The breeder said for any reason I could return the pup and get my money back. Well of course that was a lie. Now what should I do?
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Contact the OES Rescue Contact in your area for options and/or assistance in rehoming your puppy. http://www.oes.org/html/oes_rescue.shtml


Nita
Indiana-Midwest Old English Sheepdog Rescue
When I got puppy from my breeder everything was spelled out in the contract we both signed---

Did you sign a contract and did it have any stipulations for returning the pup???

Of course if you cannot care for this 9 week old, please for the sake of this puppy and to help her get a loving, happy home, think about contacting the OES rescue in your area..They do a great job finding furever homes------
I think Rescue will have little to no problem re-homing a 9 week old puppy. I looked for a puppy to rescue FOREVER, and ended up having to get one from a breeder. Good luck!
Where are you? Perhaqps someone here can put you in touch with your closest rescue.
If your breeder is a member of the Old English Sheepdog Club of America, you can ask it to intervene on your behalf and try to persude the breeder to work with you. If you don't know whether the breeder is an OESCA member, contact OESCA's Corresponding Secretary and she will help you. (See the club's website for names, e-mails of officers and other Board members. It's www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamerica.org) You might also want to contact the OESCA Regional Director that covers the area where your breeder lives and see if there's any scope for involvement there.

OESCA doesn't have any legal jurisdiction over member-breeders, so they can't force the breeder to give you your money back, but the threat of a disciplinary hearing and possible sanctions generally gets breeders to honor contracts and behave in a reasonable manner.

Make sure you put everything in writing and keep notes of what has transpired.

If that fails, PLEASE contact the various rescue groups around your area to help you re-home the puppy. If you (for whatever reason) have to rehome the puppy yourself, make absolutely sure you check the limited registration box on the puppy's papers so it doesn't get exploited for breeding.

Good luck.....so sorry things aren't working out.
Where are you located at? If you are near me, I would be more than willing to help out. I have been looking for an OES for only a few weeks now, and I have been working with the SouthEastern Rescue. They have been fantastic so far, but I am definately open to all possibilites!

I had an OES growing up, and I loved her so much, I cant wait to get another one!

Amber
Hey, thanks for posting. If you are outside the US we might still be able to help so just let us know.
I live in the us. Ive decided not to put her in rescue. Shes not a rescue. I will find her a good home on my own. From my messages and some post Ive read Im a little weary of "rescues".
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From my messages and some post Ive read Im a little weary of "rescues".


8O 8O 8O The rescues I know would not make me weary, but I do know there are some other "rescues" that are actually exploiters. Some rescue people can be rude.......I can only imagine the messages you've received. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry you have to give up the pup.
Some rescues will send prospective families your way without requiring you to surrender the dog to rescue, especially given the fact that you've tried to do the right thing.

It couldn't hurt to talk to a couple of rescue volunteers near where you live, just to let him/her know that you're trying to place a puppy. You might be pleasantly surprised!
[sarcasm]I know. You and your breeder were such good decision makers that you now have a just 9 week old puppy to rehome that those rescue organizations, that are operated by volutnteers who give of their time to help fix other people's problems, are just evil.[/sarcasm]

If you really want what is best for the puppy, an OES rescue organization is your best bet. Even though you sound like you mean well, if you are looking to get your money back from this poor purchasing decision, then you aren't trying to do what is best for the dog, you're trying to do what is best for your pocketbook and even if you try your hardest, your puppy's welfare is secondplace.

Either way, whatever you choose, good luck to you and your pup.
Try to think of the poor pup, and get her a good home please. Thanks
LynnH wrote:
I live in the us. Ive decided not to put her in rescue. Shes not a rescue. I will find her a good home on my own. From my messages and some post Ive read Im a little weary of "rescues".

Lynn, thanks for registering. Let us know what state you're in and then if anyone in your area is interested, they can send you a private message about the puppy.
LynnH wrote:
I live in the us. Ive decided not to put her in rescue. Shes not a rescue. I will find her a good home on my own. From my messages and some post Ive read Im a little weary of "rescues".


Unfortunately she is a rescue. You have her, and at a very early age, you are already looking to re-home her. If your breeder was responsible at all; then they would not have let her go until she was 8 weeks old. so If thats the case. you've had your pup for one week and now need to re-home it. That's a rescue. Any dog in need of a new home is a rescue.

Rescue organizations will screen potential homes and owners to make sure that your pup will go to a place that hopefully it will stay for the rest of its life. They will make sure that the new owners only get the pup understanding what the responsibiilites are, and the burdens of ownership as well. If you simply re-sell the pup to another person who may or may not be prepared, this scenario is doomed to repeat itself, at the dog's expense.

PLEASE reconsider rescue; the people doing OES rescue know the breed as well as anyone, if not better! They will do the right thing, and find your pup the right home; a permanant one.
I don't think that anyone should be using this forum for "selling" their unaltered dog. Unless you get this puppy spayed before you "sell" it you are taking a HUGE chance for her to end up with a backyard breeder, or worse. Millers may very well be crusing this forum especuially for this opportunity....To pick up a young female OES whose owner is abandoning her for money.

It might not be the best thing for the puppy to be spayed at such an early age, but if you are not going to release her to a reputable rescue who will ensure it is done at the right time, you should at least get it done before you "sell" her.

There are many vets/shelters/rescue groups that can help you find a place to have it done NOW.
I have been planning on getting an OES for a while. My breeder has just fallen through. I thought she meant her dog was having puppies in late March, she meant she was going to breed in late March.

Anyways, If you are close to the Chicago area I would be interested. PM Me.
Lyn---Can you post a picture????
LynnH wrote:
I live in the us. Ive decided not to put her in rescue. Shes not a rescue. I will find her a good home on my own. From my messages and some post Ive read Im a little weary of "rescues".


We are a rescue but have on occasion assisted families and breeders re-home their displaced dogs themselves without compensation. If someone doesn't help find a qualified home for the dog, the chances of them ending up in a shelter (or worse) is greater with each failed attempt. Some wonderful dogs have been through four or five homes before they find their forever home. We screen applications and refer good people and let the owners decide.

I have a foster dog in my home now and find it hard to consider her a "rescue". She was from a lovely home where the couple split up and the home went into foreclosure. It isn't easy to find an apartment with a big dog. Yes, many of us will argue that point but few have actually been put into this position. The man tearfully said goodbye to his beloved dog, trusting that we could do a better job screening for a new home than he could.

It's unfortunate that you have been turned off by rescue groups for whatever reason. I wish you good luck in your search for a new home for your OES but remember, there are people who ARE willing to assist you.

Nita

Indiana-Midwest OES Rescue
I think you have the wrong idea about a rescue group. Many of us that work in "rescue" indeed rescue dogs from bad situations but rescue groups also help people rehome dogs for many reasons. military duties, financial , moving, illness and families that just did not know enough about a breed to keep in their household. A good rescue group will take a dog and evaluate it for what type of home it will do best in (you have a pup so the home should be willing to do the housebreaking and obedience work plus understand the grooming requirements and just what a sheepdog is like) vet references are done, personal references are done and a home visit. Once a dog is placed if that family for what ever reason cannot keep the dog it is returned to the rescue group and the process starts again. Not like the breeder that will not take your dog back for what ever the reason. OES rescue does a great job of protecting the dog to be placed. Maybe this will change your mind about what a "rescue" dog is.
Geez,

I just hope and pray that they don't spay a pup so young and risking possibly killing her.
I know this is going to sound harsh, and it is not meant as an attack, rather just an observation. There are so many things hinky with this situation, I don't think it's worth rescue people's time to try to respond. You guys do great work but no matter how many great arguments and examples you give, some people are going to think they know best. I don't think this has anything to do with rescue, but a lot more with recovering money spent on the pup.

I think the part that I find most frustrating is that this is a 9 week old puppy. This means we're looking at one of two things: this person got the puppy far too early from this "breeder" or, she got her more appropriately around 8 weeks and, in a week's time, decided she couldn't do it. Either way, it's just sad because it's the pup that suffers.[/i]
I am sure this is NOT and OESCA breeder as OESCA breeders take back any pup and even at that young age will refund all the money

This is so typical of a situation that people do not realize what is involved and a "so called breeder" who does not give a damn


Where are you I'll take her and find a home for her, I am NOT rescue, but you lost your money


Guest wrote:
If your breeder is a member of the Old English Sheepdog Club of America, you can ask it to intervene on your behalf and try to persude the breeder to work with you. If you don't know whether the breeder is an OESCA member, contact OESCA's Corresponding Secretary and she will help you. (See the club's website for names, e-mails of officers and other Board members. It's www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamerica.org) You might also want to contact the OESCA Regional Director that covers the area where your breeder lives and see if there's any scope for involvement there.

OESCA doesn't have any legal jurisdiction over member-breeders, so they can't force the breeder to give you your money back, but the threat of a disciplinary hearing and possible sanctions generally gets breeders to honor contracts and behave in a reasonable manner.

Make sure you put everything in writing and keep notes of what has transpired.

If that fails, PLEASE contact the various rescue groups around your area to help you re-home the puppy. If you (for whatever reason) have to rehome the puppy yourself, make absolutely sure you check the limited registration box on the puppy's papers so it doesn't get exploited for breeding.

Good luck.....so sorry things aren't working out.
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