Eating prey

Peppo caught and killed a bird in the yard today. Can I let him eat it?
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No!
I sure wouldn't.
no - ick!
No, please don't. You never know for sure if a wild animal is "clean" or if it was sickly and carrying some parasite or disease.

My Schipperke-mix caught/killed a rabbit early one morning in the short time she was out to potty. My husband was so surprised when she came in and proudly dropped it at his feet. Ick, ick, ick.... poor bunny. :( Thankfully it was a quick and sure kill. (I later made my husband go back and check it to be certain it was dead :roll:)
EWWWW!!!!
I had that with Kelsey a parrot hit the window, by the time I got outside it was demolished. EEEEEWWWWW she chomped it straight away, no side affects but 3 days later she did throw up a lovely pile of rainbow feathers in the house :twisted: :lol: :lol:

Don't get me started previous sheepie girl ate a rotten birds egg that was kick out of the nest, she threw that up inside too, again EEEEWWWWW the smell of rotten egg was unbelieveable. :roll: She got her face washed and ME well smelly rotten clean up of the floor and what came up :evil:

I could also talk about a dead decaying possum another sheepie girl came across but that is just toooooo gross :?

Ahhhh the joys of sheepies and yes they are fed well :lol: Just mine are capable of scavenging if they ever got loose in the wild :roll:
First of all, Sybil congratulates Peppo - she has long tried to snatch lowflying birds out of the air to no avail!!!

Otherwise - yes, ick.

One of our local rescue people failed foster 101 - pup had every parasite known to man including mange, but except heartworm (thank god). Just when she thought she had everything cleared up, she spotted something new and interesting and offered to e-mail me a picture of the fecal sample (NOT!!!!) She brought the sample to our vet instead (still offering to show me - NOT!!!!) Tapeworm.

To cheer her up <?> vet told her about how she was grooming her youngest sheepdog at the centennial and looked down to discover a tapeworm crawling...well, anyway. Short of the story she had her tech fedex her meds, called her husband and quizzed him, and he remembered that pupper had eaten a dead rabbit a few weeks earlier.

They are now divorced. I'm sure it's a coincidence :wink: :lol: :lol:

Kristine
Hi,

I know I'm late and you've recieved lots of advice so far but here's something that wasn't mentioned.

Circle of life kinda thing: In our area the drop in hummingbirds has been noticable as they eat bugs which in turn have been loaded with pesticides due to backyard gardeners spraying their gardens.

I once visited a prey bird sanctuary - Owls, eagles ect..some had birth defects from their mothers ingesting prey that had been sprayed with pesticides such as birds or rats. Anyhow something to think about if your pet gets hold of a bird or rat.

Marianne
Not a good idea. In Europe and Asia dogs have contracted bird flu via eating contaminated birds. Hasn't happened here, but does point up some virus' can be transmitted to the "eater."

Since you don't know what killed the bird, keep the dogs from eating it.

Also birds have fleas and fleas mean worms........... :wink:
Also to think about: bird bones are bad for digestive systems. It's why you never, ever give a dog chicken bones to eat.

One morning, I woke up to find the freshly eviscerated, headless carcass of some poor, hapless bird. I was less worried about parasites because my dogs are on year round protection, and not so much worried about bird flu because it hasn't been seen in the US--yet. I was worried about bird bones and whatever feathers were consumed. Not sure who the culprit was--no one had any digestive upsets or obvious evidence later. It turned out ok, but it could have been a pretty bad thing.
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It's why you never, ever give a dog chicken bones to eat.


Aaaahhh, there are a lot of Raw Fed dogs doing well eating RAW chicken wings/necks, backs and ribs..........but not the legs, those are too big. The raw bones are still flexible, cooking dries them and makes them splinter.

Judging how many of our living chickens and ducks Shane the Pyr ate :cry: :cry: :cry: .......they are pretty tasty too, even the feathers.
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Not a good idea. In Europe and Asia dogs have contracted bird flu via eating contaminated birds. Hasn't happened here, but does point up some virus' can be transmitted to the "eater."


Where did you hear this?? When did it happen?
SheepieBoss wrote:
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It's why you never, ever give a dog chicken bones to eat.


Aaaahhh, there are a lot of Raw Fed dogs doing well eating RAW chicken wings/necks, backs and ribs..........but not the legs, those are too big. The raw bones are still flexible, cooking dries them and makes them splinter.


Yup - I don't feed raw, but my guys nonetheless get raw turkey and chicken necks and backs on a regular basis on the recommendation of my vet. Not a problem. But that's been USDA inspected, as opposed to your average bird carcass... 8O

Kristine
My hound catches birds and rats regularly, he hides them in the yard because he knows we'll take them away. Mostly he just rolls on them and licks them. Besides being really gross and smelly they are a hazard becaus of their bones. My uncle is a trauma surgeon for the UF vet school and is always telling me horror stories about chicken bones. Unless you want to risk a very expensive surgery I wouldn't do it.
I can't beleive this has come up on the forum today! Twice in the last 24 hours we have found Poppy happily 'playing' with a dead blackbird in the garden. We quickly removed the one she had yesterday (which was still 'whole' - just quite dead!) and then about an hour ago I saw her in the garden with another one - this one had clearly been deceased for some time as maggots had moved in - ick,ick ick!!!!! I'm sure the local cats are leaving them in the garden as some kind of protection racket now Poppy is getting so big! :wink:

I'm getting paranoid about it as this morning I shouted to Tony to remove another 'dead bird' from the doormat that turned out to be one of his socks! Maybe I should wear my glasses more!
Mad Dog wrote:
Yup - I don't feed raw, but my guys nonetheless get raw turkey and chicken necks and backs on a regular basis on the recommendation of my vet. Not a problem. But that's been USDA inspected, as opposed to your average bird carcass... 8O

Kristine


Why does he recommend they get them and do you just buy them in th esupermarket and give them to the crew?

Also, not to be difficult but this week USDA inspection probably doesn't mean as much. :D
kerry wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
Yup - I don't feed raw, but my guys nonetheless get raw turkey and chicken necks and backs on a regular basis on the recommendation of my vet. Not a problem. But that's been USDA inspected, as opposed to your average bird carcass... 8O

Kristine


Why does he recommend they get them and do you just buy them in th esupermarket and give them to the crew?

Also, not to be difficult but this week USDA inspection probably doesn't mean as much. :D


Yeah, you're right - but I figure it's still a step up from "Inspected by neighbor's cat" (although maybe not? :wink: :lol: )

She recommended it because it helps keep their teeth cleaner. The practice probably doesn't thrill raw-feeding purists, but my dogs love it. I just pick it up in the grocery store - some times you have to search a bit to find it. Easiest to find around here are turkey necks. They usually get some once a week. Only drawback is that it can get messy where they're eating it.

You want to make sure you have chewers, not inhalers (so they don't choke on it), and bigger pieces are actually better (so they need to chew). The usual precautions for handling raw poultry apply for the human. I probably wouldn't risk it if there were young children in the household or someone with a compromised immune system, just in case, but I've never had an issue. I've only had one who took a while to catch on to what she was supposed to do with food that didn't come out of a bag, but she figured it out after the others stole her portion enough times :lol:

It's a deep breath and a leap of faith the first time you try because we've heard so many times that bones are bad for dogs, But when you think about it, though they are a few generations or so :wink: away from their origins, their basic make-up is not and chances are no one cooked and deboned chicken for them in the wild.

Now, the morning the little &^%$$ grabbed a whole cooked chicken off the stove and three of them gobbled the entire thing down (and I mean there was NOTHING left), THEN I panicked. But at least no upchucked feathers. Yet. :wink:

Kristine
oh my Kristine! Hope they don't get upset systems.

I just got off the phone with my vet's office. I was trying to find out if Morgan's latest bout of gaastrointestinal issues (yep he is pooping all over the kitchen when I am at work :( ) could be due to his thyroid meds. they say not.

That leaves the fact that I bought him and Marley some very expensive beef bones this weekend at the pet store for a treat. He ate his - and apparently it upset his little tummy and Marley politely licked hers once, turned it over licked it again and went to sleep for the rest of the afternoon :P

Apparently she likes the grocery store bones better 8O
kerry wrote:
Apparently she likes the grocery store bones better 8O


No accounting for taste? :lol: Or maybe she picked up on something he didn't.

Mine don't have a problem with raw. They don't have a problem with most things, including things you'd think they should have a problem with, Like Sybil eating about 20 cough drops, wrapper and all a few days ago (that one, too, scared me!) All I can think is that they are part goat 8O

Kristine
Morgan has also discovered a taste for "cough drop en wrapper" I wondered why the menthol didn't turn him off.

between my husband dropping things on the floor (cough drops) and the Macaw's eating habits (anyone who has one knows more food on the floor than in the macaw) its a wonder i can keep Morgan off of protein and rice for more than a week at a time!

Pirate (the Macaw) has learned to say "leave it" whenever Morgan nears the cage!

All I need is another pet.....
Mad Dog wrote:
Or maybe she picked up on something he didn't.



Kristine


hadn't thought about that :oops: guess the one marley wouldn't eat comes out of the freezer and into the garbage.
This is slightly off-topic, but a great place for this story.

Our Gus LOVES to chase rabbits while on his off-leash walks, and we often wondered what he would do if he ever caught one.

Well, a few weeks ago, somehow a rabbit got into our fenced yard. I didn’t see the little furball when I let Gus out, and the chase was on! Back and forth, back and forth across the yard until Gus finally had the rabbit cornered. The bunny was totally traumatized and just sat there trembling. So what did Gus do? Well, he sniffed the rabbit, licked the rabbit, and then started to prod the rabbit’s rear with his nose as if to say, “Get up, buddy, and let’s play tag some more. That was fun!”

Gus came when called, but the rabbit just sat there and had to be shooed out when my husband opened a gate.

That’s our killer Gus! LOL!
Awww...what a sweet boy. :hearts:

Beau's never had a rabbit to chase, but occassionally, the neighbor's cat gets in the fence and he does the same thing to her. He chases her until he finally catches her. Then, he lays down with her between his two front legs, with one paw securely holding her down while he proceeds to lick her. :roll: Silly boy. :lol:
I dont think it would be a good idea, and no I would never allow Obe to eat a animal.
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