Darting into the street! Help!

As with all OESs I'm sure, Tucker loves, loves, LOVES to meet other people and other dogs. He doesn't care where they are, he will run to meet them. This gives me a heart attack every time I am outside with him. He is tied up if we are in front together except for when we are going to or from the car, and our backyard is completely fenced in so that is no trouble. But I would really love to be able to shovel the driveway or water the flowers without always tying him up. Last year I owned a hound mix for only 6 weeks before she ran out of the yard and straight onto the busiest road in town, where she was subsequently struck and immediately killed by a car. I am therefore EXTREMELY paranoid about Tucker, which I know is good because I will never let my guard down. BUT...

I guess after all of that, what I'm asking is does anyone know an effective way to keep Tucker on the property regardless of what fun things/people are across the street? Is it because he is young that he runs over there? He has no desire to leave me but simply to meet those around him (look out, paper boy! You're about to be licked to death!)
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I guess after all of that, what I'm asking is does anyone know an effective way to keep Tucker on the property regardless of what fun things/people are across the street?

BE extremely paranoid... you've lived through proof that no dog is 100% reliable off leash. If the dog isn't in a secure area, the only way to be certain he/she wont' be killed by a car is to leash them every time.

A dog may have 99.99% recall but all it takes is that one time and one distraction to be fatal. They get tunnel vision and focus on that one thing they want to get or be with... they become oblivious to an owner's desperate calls to return or the car barreling down the street. If not in a secure area, they need to be leashed.

Consider getting an extra long lead and securing it around a tree or post in the yard (NEVER to the car). Or put up a super heavy duty trolley between two trees so he can be out with you and run back and forth. I don't have a lot of faith in invisible fencing because I've known neighbor's dogs who've bolted through.

I'm sure others will give you more and better ideas...
I've had the same problem with my girls. Mony saw a cat and Laci followed, all the way around the neighborhood block. I was screaming their names, but to no avail. I could just see them getting hit and killed. We ended up getting in two cars and going different directions around the block to pick them up. Sorry about the loss of your other dog. I don't let my dogs in the front yard unless they are leashed. Hope you can come up with a solution before anthing happens to Tucker. Cute dog by the way. :D :D Oh and Welcome to the Forum
Oh my! That's awful! Hounds are crazy, I have a lab/hound mix and as soon as he can smell or see something off leash I don't have a chance. They focus on it so much that you can yell your head off, they can't hear a thing.

Electric/invisible fence may work but I would say it's 50-50 chance. I have seen dogs run through it, getting shocked and then coming back and getting shocked again. I've seen other dogs that got shocked once and learnt his lesson. Never went pass the invisible line. It works on some dogs but you can only find that out when you already bought it.

I suppose you have a no-fence law in your state/town, if so I would say tie him but still keep your eyes on him, he can break the rope!

Or wait until he is 15 years old. :D
The only way to be absolutley sure your very loved baby doesn't dart out is with a leash!!! I am way to afraid to even chance it with my 3 oes. And I do have one that is very well behaved but still NO WAY with out a leash!!. I think it's my job to determine safe and unsafe environments for my dogs. I always use a leash when I'm out in front of the house.
Thank you for all your advice - it has reaffirmed my decision to keep hiim tied up. I see the neighbours' dogs not tied and they don't seem to go anywhere, but can you imagine how I might feel if I thought Tucker wouldn't go anywhere and he did and the unthinkable happened????? I couldn't deal with that. I will keep him tied on...thanks!!!
I am so sorry for your loss. I see dogs sitting on the front lawn watching us as we walk by and I wonder how they do that. I would never trust Bella to stay in the yard. Fortunately we live at the end of a cul de sac (sp) and when Bella has gotten loose she just goes around to all the neighbors looking for their kids. But since she doesn’t come when called most of the time and is easily distracted it just reinforces my use of a leash when we are out.
Never, never, never trust a dog offlead. There is no perfectly trained dog. Every dog needs to be treated like he's completely unpredictable-- because they can be.
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Never, never, never trust a dog offlead. There is no perfectly trained dog. Every dog needs to be treated like he's completely unpredictable-- because they can be.


words of wisdom...
ButtersStotch wrote:
Never, never, never trust a dog offlead. There is no perfectly trained dog. Every dog needs to be treated like he's completely unpredictable-- because they can be.


ditto
I totally agree about leaving him on the leash especially if you live near a busy street. You cound always buy a long lead that is stuck in the ground and he would have more room to move around when you are outside with him.
I bought one of those leads as we do not have any fence in our yard or patio. I have used it and Winston got used to it. But now I can let him outside without a leash in the patio for a small while. But he is always looking out in front to see if he sees any passerbys or other dogs.
And he has gotten used to seeing rabbits and squirels in the yard and will not run after them. When he sees the animals I say in a real stern voice,
NO, STAY WINSTON. It seems to have worked but yet I do not trust him enough to stay out without a lead or leash.

Mary
I totally agree with Jill's sage advise. My dogs are NEVER outside of a fenced area off leash.
I feel for you they have so much love to give my postman says my Harvey is the only dog that wags his tail when he comes to the house bless him . It does worry me he thinks every dog & every person is delighted as he is to meet. I make sure when i hear harvey's pure delighted i run to him so he doesn't dart thats oes normal behaviour what would we do without them
I completely agree with keeping him tied up. It may only save you the embarassment of running down the street yelling your dogs name, but it may also save their life.

That said, I had a neighbor growing up who had two dogs (don't know what kind) that would not leave his front yard. Ever. As a kids we made a game out of riding our bikes and running past the house calling the dogs, and never once did they leave the yard. I know there was no invisible fence, and I'd love to know how he did it. It was amazing. Must have been super-human powers of some kind.
It might not be how the owner did it... it may simply have been these individual dogs. I've met only one dog that couldn't have cared less about people. Most dogs want to get at you to either-

Challenge your presence.
Investigate who's coming through their territory.
Slobber you to death.
Or see what kind of food you're packing.

I've mentioned this before but...
a pro-trainer we've used in the past had told us that no dog is ever safe off leash. He had two pro-trainer friends in NJ who lost their extremely well trained dogs to cars within weeks of each other.
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