RE: Furminator
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Patience! 
I'm sure that others will chime in on the grooming questions but I just wanted to say: Hey! Welcome to the forum! I'm glad you found us and joined. |
| I'd ditch the Furminator immediately. It's really made for dogs that shed a lot of coat and it pulls out all the dead hair. It is not for an OES and, in fact, could be painful for him if you're trying to get hair to come out with it! OES should not shed like that, which explains why you aren't getting anything out with it. Get yourself a good pin brush-- that'll penetrate down far enough in the coat to grab any loose hairs that are ready to come out. If you're looking to remove undercoat, a good stripping rake like the Mars rake will work nicely.
Good luck! |
| Welcome from sunny Phoenix Arizona (today at least) |
| Thanks for the replies. Druby is a very patient young man. He (sleeps) lays on his side while I brush him. I rouse him after I have done the first side to get him to turn over so I can do the other side. He stays outside except in the evenings. If he is incredibly dirty from rolling in the dirt, he lets me vacuum him. (I won't say it is his favorite activty but he will come to me, even with the vacuum running and I don't have to hold him.)
I have what I assume you would call a "pin brush" (round with platic pins that when you twist it, the pins retract to clean it). I first use one of the "glove brushes" that has lots of close places bristles. This mostly just gets any crusted dirt or leaves, etc. I then use the pin brush, after that I use a wire comb (probably need to get one with double layer of teeth for the undercoat/hair. I didn't expect the furminator to get much hair, as I know OES dont' shed much. When he was getting his checkup from his heartworm treatment the other day, the vet had the furminator video going. I asked about it and the tech demonstrated it on him. When it removed even a small amout of hair, I knew it worked well, because I get a really small amount of loose hair in all of my brushing and combing. It does work wonders on our Maine Coon Cats. |
No, I mean a straight pin brush, a good one-- no balls on the tips, and firm but flexible bristles, like this All Systems one.
What rescue did you get your guy from? |
It sounds like you have bought every "As Seen on TV" dog grooming product out there!! 
You really only need a few grooming tools for a pet. A good pin brush, a wide tooth metal comb and a rake. If you are really hard core, a good stripper (I know, everyone can use a good stripper!!!) the Mars stripper that Jill mentioned earlier is a good piece of equipment if used properly. |
| I actually found my guy on craigslist, under farm+garden. The owner wanted $250 for him. I called and talked to the owner a few times before I made the 70 mile 1 way trip. I had explained that I wouldn't give near that amount so she better know what her bottom dollar was before I got there. (I did a search and he had been listed multiple times over a few weeks, before I saw the ad.) When I got there he was running loose near the county road. He was a mess with mats and a few cuts (still bloody) where some mats had been recently cut off., the young lady (EARLY 20s if not a still a teen) explained she was trying to sell him and some other things as they were having a tough time financially. (She had 2 kids under 3, and 1 on the way.) The husband is a welder and they were getting ready to move. He recently had gotten a job about 200 miles away and he was actually there working. He had told her not to sell the dog for less than $150. He was very underweight, and as I questioned her, I realized she had a good heart, but just didn't know what she was getting into with a OES. I figured at best he was wormy and at worst had heartworms. (Supposedly she had been treating him as long as she could afford it. May would have been his last heartworm treatment.) I said I would give her $50 to help her family, and give her the reassurance I would take care of Druby. She said, no way. As I got in the truck to leave, she changed her mind. I got his AKC papers, but he had never been registered as a pup. I talked to the breeder, who was jsut sick when she learned of Druby's plight. Her husband had tried to get her to not let this couple have him, but they had driven 200 + miles and she felt sorry for them. They made lots of promises, including letting her have him back. The breeder was happy I had him. The breeder had gotten her dogs from way off, and were high quality dogs. (The mother died of cancer, after she spent thousands on chemo.) One of his litter mates is a therapy dog in Utah, one is with a family that has adopted 17 special needs children. I don't remember where she said the others are, but this one was the only one she hadn't been able to keep up with. His sister recently gave birth to a litter in CA. The person who had her surprised the lady who bred Druby with a pup, after learning about her dog's mom's death.
My wife wanted to kill me when I brought him home. I got him on a Sat. and when she found out I agreed to treat the heartworms on Monday, she really was frustrated. He has now won her over. (She didn't want to get close to another dog, after we had to put our OEM down, because her hips went totally out at 10 years old.) |
| )As Jill said, the Furmerator was designed for dogs with undercoat...and since OES's do not have undercoat, it is pulling the hair out, which can be painful for them. I have been told to use a pin brush which works very well and the rake...which also works at getting any loose hair.
Welcome from ST. Louis.................... (picttures...please post pictures... |
sheepieshake wrote: )As Jill said, the Furmerator was designed for dogs with undercoat...and since OES's do not have undercoat, it is pulling the hair out, which can be painful for them. I have been told to use a pin brush which works very well and the rake...which also works at getting any loose hair.
Welcome from ST. Louis.................... (picttures...please post pictures... There is an undercoat, just not like you'd see on a dog like say, a Golden Retriever, where you can yank out gobs at any given time. The OES undercoat is just that thick, waterproof pile. It's a little frizzier looking. Oh, wait. Here's a good pic. Anything that isn't white is undercoat!  |
| Rest assured I have not been pulling Druby's hair out. I know about undercoats (had Poms) that were so difficult to deal with, that we let the groomer take care of them. I had a OES mix when I was a kid and kept him decent looking, so rare groomings is one promise I made to the wife, that I must keep. LOL
The furminator will be used on the cats and my son's lab mix and his australian shepherd mix. |
| Welcome to the boards and thanks for sharing Druby's story. Thanks for rescuing him--I shudder to think what would have happened to him. Of course your wife fell in love with him! That's only natural.
And we love pictures--hint, hint. |
Quote: My wife wanted to kill me when I brought him home. I got him on a Sat. and when she found out I agreed to treat the heartworms on Monday, she really was frustrated. He has now won her over.
Welcome to the forum. Sheepies have a special way of winning over people who aren't real thrilled with them.
I love the Furminator and the Oster Grooming Rake for both my Border Collie-mix and my Schipperke-mix but I've never found either of these tools beneficial with any of my 4 sheepies. They just don't shed like other breeds. I've got to get that All Systems brush you keep recommending Jill... |
| Welcome, I'm so so so thrilled to hear Druby's story and thank you for saving him!
The furminator is fabulous on my brother's three golden retrievers. He told me I just had to have one...I said, "Why? My dogs don't shed!"  He should have sent in a video for their commercial. (PS, he also bought it on ebay for about 1/2 retail.  ) |
| That 17 kids lines stick out at me.... haven't we heard about that dog? |
Ron wrote: That 17 kids lines stick out at me.... haven't we heard about that dog? Yeah, I thought the same thing. No wait, could it have been a BYB that came up on here at one time? Quote: I've got to get that All Systems brush you keep recommending Jill...
Lol. Actually, it happened to be the first one where a good sized picture came up so that's why I posted it again. It just seems that I've had a run on All Systems stuff lately. They should send me some money for the free advertising I give them! To be honest, I like the Christensen 27 mm one the best but that's just my personal preference (and Chris Christensen can send me money and freebies as well for all the recommendations I give for that brush!). I mentioned something about this thread to James as I was reading it and he started laughing and reminded me of some guy who was peddling the furminator at a pet expo we went to. The guy saw us coming and wanted to use it on Bear (my Komondor). He insisted it would be great on "all that hair." He didn't want to listen to reason that this was NOT the kind of dog to do this on and I found it even more concerning that even though Bear was obviously corded, he wanted to try to yank that thing through him. James still says we should have let him try and let Bear convince him how wrong he was!  |
| Is the 17 kid thing a line that I shouldn't have bought? (It has been a few weeks since I talked to the breeders, so the exact number may be off, but I do remember it was a BUNCH.)
The breeder did mention that Druby's mother had more of a silky hair and the father has more of a coarse, curly hair. She said it was very difficult to groom him. Druby is a "tweener." His hair is soft and a little curly on his body. Kind of feels like the extra thick down of chick, His head has more straight, coarse hair. His hair is only 3/4 - 1 inch long on his body, so most of it is undercoat. I'll try to post pics at some point. (Tried to cut and past into this post and it didn't work.) |
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