Never feed your pet....

In the Sunday newspaper magazine was an article on the right food for your pet. There was a section on 20 things never to feed your pet and they were...
Alchohol... Apple cores... Avacado... Bones... Caffeine... Cheese... Chocolate... Dough... Fat... Garlic... Grapes... Ham... Liver... Milk... Moldy Foods...Mushrooms... Onions... Potato Skins... Raisins... Tuna
Some of these are a no-brainer, but I was suprised at some...like cheese? We treat Pooh with cheese, but is this a no-no?
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I am surpirsed at a few of these items too...Some are no brainers, you're right. But, cheese? Liver? Moldy foods, alcohol, etc are pretty common knowledge. Even Tuna I am a bit surprised with. I thought people who feed raw use canned tuna or mackeral sometimes for protein?

Who wrote the article?
The article was in the Sunday Parade magazine with the newspaper. The article was written by Karen Halligan. It was aimed at dogs and cats. So, I'm hoping on responses to the article if anyone has read it......
Hmmm, wonder if I could goggle it and read it since I don't live in your area...I'll try.

Did the author specify which foods were bad for dogs and which were bad for cats or just lumped them into bad for both? reason I ask that is I think some foods are okay for dogs but not for cats. Not being a cat person, I don't really pay attention to what to not feed cats but I've read some things about it.
Go to parade.com....This week in parade section......table of contents.....and The right food for your pet article.
Well on another dog board, they always say no cheddar/yellow cheese because it's too high in fat for the dogs, but to sprinkle mozzarella, and that's okay. So, that's what we have done for our maltese. :?

I've been to many vet offices and they have cheese whiz on their counter for dogs. I don't give my dogs that, so I tell them my dog can't have it, but I have noticed it in more than one office.
Joahaeyo wrote:
I've been to many vet offices and they have cheese whiz on their counter for dogs. I don't give my dogs that, so I tell them my dog can't have it, but I have noticed it in more than one office.


Cheezwhiz Image Cheese.
I agree with some of the things she mentions... and home cooking for dogs can be very tricky when it comes to balancing the nutrients. I thought the Whole Dog Journal said it best that you try to balance over a brief period of time, not each meal. There are also supplements now that are said to help balance a home cooked diet.

#9 on the never to feed list is fat.
What kind of fat? Doesn't mention anything about the beneficial fatty acid supplements like omega-3 they recommend for dogs with allergies or dry skin.

The article says "Stick With Store-Bought" but at the very bottom of the article it says, "Want to whip up healthy treats for your pet? Visit Parade.com for recipes from author Karen Halligan. :? What about meat being the first ingredient... it says protein or carbohydrate as the first ingredient for TREATS but nothing under the store-bought-food section. There are store bought foods I would never feed my dogs.

And #6 on the never to feed list is cheese...
Yet, Parmesan cheese is a listed ingredient in one of her dog recipes. Well, there's an oops for you :oops: .

Meaty Mutt Meatballs
½ pound ground beef or sirloin
¼ cup parmesan cheese
¼ cup finely chopped carrot
½ cup bread crumbs....

We all have our opinions and granted, you can only fit so much in a 1 1/3 page story. Not enough explaining in my view but maybe the article was edited too much prior to publishing it?? I think I'll stick with the ASPCA's list unless I learn more-
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pa ... poisonsafe
Umm, I've been adding chicken livers to ground chicken, some rice and barley and veggies for my dogs homemade food. Could someone please tell me why the livers are bad (and if so, what is going to happen?). Thanks.
I trust what experience and reputable dog resources, like Whole Food Dog Journal, tell me over Parade.
ButtersStotch wrote:
I trust what experience and reputable dog resources, like Whole Food Dog Journal, tell me over Parade.


Absolutely!
What's wrong with Tuna, I feed that on occassions with their dry, canned in springwater? Now you have me worried. :?
Perhaps it is the level of mercury in the tuna?
Wouldn't salmon come into that catergory too then? A few dry foods are salmon based. I feed sardines as well.

They love fish & it is so good for their coats and skin.

So what would be the problem only with tuna as that is the only fish mentioned?
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Perhaps it is the level of mercury in the tuna?

Yes, most fish I think does have some level of mercury.
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/sea-mehg.html
If it's too high, people shouldn't be eating either :?
Sigh... just my opinion but this article lumped both cats
and dogs together and didn't explain anything.

I've read that you aren't supposed to feed cats tuna fish as a regular diet because it's not balanced... it doesn't have all the vitamins a cat needs. I don't know if it has the required level of taurine though fish is said to have it... taurine is said to be essential in a cat's diet.

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pa ... cannedtuna
"...For example, vitamin E is not present in significant amounts in tuna, which could lead to a deficiency of this vitamin. The resulting disease is called yellow fat disease, or steatitis. This disease causes fever, loss of appetite, and hypersensitivity to touch due to inflammation and necrosis of the fat under the skin. Since tuna is not formulated to meet all of the nutritional needs of a cat, companion felines could also develop other nutrient deficiencies. Most de-boned fish are deficient in calcium, sodium, iron, copper and several vitamins..."

If in doubt, ask your vet. Personally, I see nothing wrong with giving tuna, salmon or mackerel as an occasional topper to their kibble. It may have nutrients that help to round out the diet... but I'm definitely NOT a vet.
Seems to me this article was a waste of ink...
NO CHEESE??? We are in BIG trouble then. Max loves it- and - I must say we have always used it as a reward and an treat in general. Our Vet knows and has never cautioned us..... should we worry I wonder?
Ron wrote:
Seems to me this article was a waste of ink...

I agree did not get into spacifics on how and why's and on the list some items can be given in small amonts
I thought it was very vague. I'd like to hear some whys. The last time that Maudie headed for the busy street, cheese saved the day!
I've given my pack a cheese too... we used
to wrap pills up in it and give it to them for
a quick and easy down-the-hatch.

Ask your vet... I think you'll find in moderation cheese
is fine unless it's some moldy, exotic variety.
What's wrong with grapes?

And I feed my cat the occasional can of tuna in spring water... he loves it and goes nuts when I open the can. I don't think the mercury content will hurt if they eat 1 can about every 2-3 months or so. I don't know why a dog would want tuna though.

I know chicken bones are bad, but it just said "bones." I suppose I don't have random bones laying around anyhow, but dogs can't have bones? That's crazy!
1st Time OES Mommy wrote:
What's wrong with grapes?



See the "sticky" post above in the Medical and nutrition list.
Here are some of the justifications:

Tuna fish:
Tuna fish can be a problem for cats. The feline heart muscle needs an amino acid called taurine. Tuna fish does not have this amino acid and cats that eat tuna fish as the mainstay of their diets can develop heart problems. Tuna for cats has taurine added.

Avocados:
Too high in fat and the pit can cause an intestinal blockage.

Ham (and other salty meats):
Too high in salt and fat and can cause tummy ache or pancreatitis. Can also cause excessive drinking which can lead to bloat.


The rest that I could find were all the usual suspects. The ones that are truly bad for your animal like chocolate and raisins and onions.

But what a bunch of hooey! It isn't that these particular foods are bad in moderation, it is that they are fatty or incomplete nutritionally which can lead to other issues.

Who gives a whole avocado with the pit to their dog?
I can understand that some might feed only human tuna to their cats, but the fact that it's missing an amino acid and can't be their sole source of food doesn't make it bad for you.
Mine get cheese too as just a treat or if pill popping, works wonders without trying to wrestle a pill down their throats.. Annoys the heck out of me when an article is written and all lumped into one catergory.

Some is just common sense, the rest well cat vs dogs and what not too feed. :roll:

Thankyou jaci on the tuna info. :wink: :D My girls can enjoy their fish still along with the other fish varietes :D My vet was not opposed to tuna, the last out break of runny poops instead of chicken and rice all the time, I could add tuna in springwater with the rice, just for a bit of variety till all was back to normal & solid.
Hi guys, sorry to re-hash an old topic, but for health reasons I feel it's important that anyone who reads this article know an update about why tuna is much worse for your pet and yourself than ever before. When the Fukushima nuclear reactors blew back in 2011 and started spewing radioactive isotopes into the ocean (will continue happening for 35 years unless they figure something out) they contaminated the oceans fish along with crops grown inland as far as 35 miles inland for some countries and growing. The rain is contaminated too, but nothing like the tuna. The Bluefin Tuna unfortunately has migration patterns that take it straight through the area contaminated the worst yearly. The government(s) will tell you that it's perfectly safe, while at the same time they still censor it from all news broadcasts and raise the "safe and legal limit for radionuclides in the local food supply" by 20 times or more. Some examples include Europe, Japan, and America. Haven't you wondered why Tuna is so cheap nowadays? It's always on sale, because they tested a butload of Tuna and found them all to be radioactive, though not all of them contained isotopes thank god. These aren't radioactive particles produced by radioactive isotopes being spilled into the ocean, they are radioactive isotopes THAT PRODUCE radioactive particles, and will continue to do so for millions of years. You would much rather get a survivable dose of straight up radiation than a few of those, but most people don't understand the difference between isotopes and radiation, making it easy to straight up lie to you with articles like this one here https://reason.com/archives/2014/07/06/ ... t-will-sav when in fact the reality is more like this..... http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima- ... ie/5469979 And that is them being optimistic to avoid a panic. The truth is this world has been pwned by corporations and governments, and as long as corporations stand to lose money on selling fish, they will continue to climb into bed with government officials. In 20 years there will have been millions of deaths, and that's just the humans, not to mention bio accumulation making it worse in the long run for larger fish like Tuna and Squid. Live births are down 15% in Japan, and there is a 1 in 5 chance that your baby WILL DIE as a result of Fukushima radiation, as infant mortality rates went up by 20% 9 months after the disaster. I am done eating fish, so is my cat, and I hope your pet is too. For a fresh updated dose or reality, search up Fukushima deaths on google images (Not recommended for the queasy). Please share this message with those you care about through your favourite social networking site. (Although only 3% of your friends can see your post unless it gets liked or shared. The more you know :P)
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