Too late for crate?

I was wanting to ask this question before I read all about crate training. My other dog I have is older and wasn't crate trained.

My sheepdog is 6 months old. His breeder crate trained him. To make a long story short since he left his breeder he hasn't been in his crate-not once. Is itoo late to re-train him? Any advice? And yes I know bad me for not keeping him crate-trained. My other dog was "abused" wiht crate training. But something has to be done when I'mnot home.
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I would start gradually. Give him treats in the crate, leave the door open, etc for a while. When he is completely comfortable with this begin closing the door for a little bit - still treats. Basically as soon as he accepts that the crate is a nice environment you will be able to leave him in it for longer periods of time. Make sure and stay in the same room until he is obviously comfortable. Depending on how he was trained before it could take a very short amount of time or longer - good luck!!!
thank you for your quick response. I needed it. I almost messed up. From what I remember being told he didn't mind his crate. Meaning he was probably used to it. But hes in it now. Not a pretty site or should I say sound. He was crying now I hear barking. Which he never does. I am in the upstairs of our home.

I mainly need the crate for when he is left alone. Which is rare. OR when someone needs a break. I know a lot would disagree or maybe not. But I'm fine with him at night. He has never once left the room (door is shut, though) He has developed the same sleeping pattern as me and sleeps throughout the night. And he doesn't even like the bed! He sleeps on the floor.

But I will immediatley let him oout and follow your advice! Thanks
And I wanted to add-we have not had one potty accident either. I've had him for quite a while. So the night time isn't our problem. But I was silly to just put him in there like that. Must of had a brain freeze! But the door wasn't shut though. But I will start slowly then build up from there. I'm just so mad at myself for not immediatley starting with the crate when I recieved him...
When I adopted Maggie at 1 year old, I was told that she hated the crate. I just ignored that information and put her in the crate as needed with treats, kongs, etc. I ignored the barking and whining and she got used to it. I only ever let her out when she has been quiet for 5-10 minutes. I do leave the door open and throw treats in there when she is not in it just to make it a fun place to explore.

If you can slowly get your pup used to it, that's great, but hopefully you have some other method to keep him safe and secure while he is learning -- such as a baby proof room or a baby-gated area.
^Yes I do have the luxury of re-training him slowly and hopefully successfully. Meaning a baby-proof room, etc.

I'm going to start slow. Not the dogs fault he has to be in there. I hope I can be strong though. I don't like the idea of that crate at all. It just reminds me of a jail cell. And I did have to spend one night/day in jail. NOT PLEASANT! But I do know its totally different. I just baby my dog so much. And I'm a baby myself!
I needed to train a 4 1/2 year old dog for a trip in the crate.

It started with the top of the crate off and a treat, the top back on, but the door off, then the door closed for just seconds, then minutes, then an hour, then more... then moving the crate while in it, that set us back for a bit, but not for long.... and worked on up to 2 very long plane flights.

He never loved the crate, but he tolerated it.
Good luck!!!
I had to crate-train Dixie, as a 1 year old adult, cold turkey. She got to my house untrained, and a wild child. She had to be crated during the work day for her and our property's safety.
She hated it, of cource, but she did get used to it, and now she LOVES her crate. I would not recommend cold turkey as a method, but in desparation it can be done.

As mentioned above:

Do not ever let him out while he is making noise. At the beginning he only needs to be quiet for a count to 30, then out. You can gradually work this time up.

Do keep things in there to make it a fun place. You might even want to tie something like a Kong, from the top of the crate, hanging down, to keep him busy.

Good luck. It will be hard, but as he was crated before, it may happen a lot quicker than you expect.
Bosley's mom wrote:
I had to crate-train Dixie, as a 1 year old adult, cold turkey. She got to my house untrained, and a wild child. She had to be crated during the work day for her and our property's safety.
She hated it, of cource, but she did get used to it, and now she LOVES her crate. I would not recommend cold turkey as a method, but in desparation it can be done.

As mentioned above:

Do not ever let him out while he is making noise. At the beginning he only needs to be quiet for a count to 30, then out. You can gradually work this time up.

Do keep things in there to make it a fun place. You might even want to tie something like a Kong, from the top of the crate, hanging down, to keep him busy.

Good luck. It will be hard, but as he was crated before, it may happen a lot quicker than you expect.


Hi, I am new here with differnt breeds of dogs. I have one Papillion and one silky terrier. I got the Silky at 5 months old about three weeks ago and it has been a nightmare. the dog has no manners and is now causing my Papillion to go haywire and mess all over the place. I have started to crate the Silky, he does not cry or make a sound. I am trying to reach up to 4 hours as when out he is peeing every 30 minutes. Since he is not making noise, does this mean he likes it or is afraid of it?
Harley, our German Shepherd (Now at the Bridge) joined our family when he was a year a a half old. He had been an outdoor dog, so he could not be trusted in the house. It took a bit of dragging and pushing to get him in the crate the first few times. I then starting feeding him in his crate. He started to associate his crate with food and he would go in when called.
When I would put him in when I left for work he would always get a cookie. He learned to love his crate.
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