Drinking Urine - PLS. Help

I am a first time owner of a sheepie and have been using this forum as a reference since we brought him home(end of May).I have found a lot of comfort from this website but must now seek specific advise. Hudson is just over 4 months (brought home at 8.5 weeks) and has been crate training from the begining. His potty training has been going relatively well meaning we are getting better at recognizing his schedule and subtle signs that he needs to go out. However, when he does have an accident in the house he starts to lap at it and we remove him so we can clean it up but when he does it in his crate (i.e. left alone for 0-3 hours) I'm positive he has drank the entire thing. There is no lining/blanket/papers in his crate but I can tell by smell/sticky fur/wet chin or penis/ damp toys etc... that he did pee and drank it up! I've been searching the web for other examples but haven't found much as to explain this behavior. I'm assuming that he's trying to get rid of the evidence or something but I just don't know what to do about it. When he pees outside he doesn't give it a thought or second glance, just trots off. This only happens inside. We have never scolded him for his accidents inside, just cleaned them up and always praise him for his outside potties. How can I remedy this behavior especially when it occurs when nobody is home. I am at home all day with him but I do have errands to run so I don't believe it's because he's left alone too long. We love him to death and are very concerned about this behavior.
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Hi and Welcome to the Forum ! :D

While he is outside the crate and lapping it up, I could not even explain that but while in the crate I am not sure if he is "drinking It" ...
The one thing I have noticed with my Pup who is 23 week old now , if I have been gone a extra long time and he can't hold it while in his crate and has a accident his HAIR soaks it up. :|
That you can tell by their sticky hair. We have not had that happen for a while now but I do not leave him alone for more that 4 hours in his crate.
(I have not had to :) ).
I would say put a nice size towel in his crate (and his toys of course :D ) when you crate him so it can soak up the urine if he has a accident.

Good luck ,

Antoinette
Oh my! Don't have any specific experience with this, but here are a couple of thoughts. He might be drinking it in order to cover his scent, much like dogs that kick grass over where they've just peed or pooped. Or, maybe he has something going on with his urinary tract, like an infection. I know that when Oscar had a UTI, he excessively licked his penis, and other dogs would sniff him there immediately, sensing something was amiss.

Does he drink a ton of water? The reason I ask is that, at 4 months, Oscar was definitely able to hold it for three hours, unless he'd overindulged in H2O! :)

One thought about putting a towel or blanket in his crate. If he is a chewer, I wouldn't put anything like that in with him, in case he ingests it, and it blocks up his digestive system.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but you might want to take a urine sample to the vet to rule out any health issues.

Please let us know how your pup is doing.

Laurie and Oscar
OH, Laurie I didn't think about that (eating the towel)......Your right.

If your OES is a eater of fabric cross out my suggestion. That is the only thing 'Junior' does not eat ,so I didn't think of it....sorry :oops:

That infection thing sounds like a possible.

Good luck,
Antoinette
Do you let him outside to play making sure he potties, then crate him up and immediately go out the door? They say that a tired dog is a good dog... it might also be a dry dog if he's had plenty of time to relieve himself. You also don't want him drinking a lot of water before kenneling-up or he'll for sure spring a leak in his crate. But you have to balance this with the length of time you'll be gone and whether it's hot... you don't want him to become dehydrated.

You might collect sample in a sterile container (you can get one from the vet) and take it in to be tested for a urinary tract infection or struvite crystals. You can at least rule out the most likely health part of this.

I have no insight as to what causes this behavior but the sheepie we adopted from rescue back in September of 2005 will do this if she pees on the floor. It appears we've corrected her bladder problem (surgically) so there's no more pee in the house (she peed in her crate too) so there's no pee in the house to drink 8) I'm wondering if it's just that it's "there" so they drink it. When it's outdoors, it soaks into the ground so it's the "out of sight, out of mind" thing.

Some dogs can just take longer to housetrain. Kaytee took FOREVER though she didn't drink it... but she IS blind so maybe the thing above is true. She just couldn't hold it as long as the others.

Good luck to you!
Thank you for your thoughts and advise. I am very diligent about timing his water consumption to potty to nap time so I can sneak out and we go outside for potties numurous times a day.
Hudson has had his urine checked (normal) and the vet also said not to worry, it's not harmful to him.
He's only had 1 accident in his crate since I originally posted and luckily I was home to stop him from licking it up. I guess time will only tell.

On a separate note... can anyone tell me why it reads "shaved" under my username. It's not a word I have ever typed and I find it a little disconcerting. I sent an e-mail regarding this issue to the postmaster when he sent a welcome message upon my registering but I have never heard back. Can anyone else help me with this.
Hey, that's very good news :D
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can anyone tell me why it reads "shaved" under my username

We all start out here as shaved. :roll: Shaved just means that you're relatively new to posting on the message board. As you post new topics and respond to other people's posts, your "fur" will grow.
Is it possible that your OES is not getting enough water when he is indoors? Tess drinks volumes of water at every chance. The other possibility is there is some chemical deficiency his body is trying to make up for?

Or, as you suggest "hiding the evidence."
Thank you so much for clarifying the "shaved " thing.
I'm relieved to know that others won't think that I added it as part of my profile.

I believe he gets enough water throughout the day. His water bowl is always out (not full) whenever he walks to it, I immediately give him some. If I think it's been awhile since I last saw him drink then I'll hold it up to him until he does.
If I were you, I would leave the bowl full of water at all times. You can remove it a few hours before bed time, but this ensures he has water whenever he wants it. If it is a short amount of time I don't leave water in Oliver's crate, but if it is more than 2 hours, I always leave him water.
In Panda's case, she was never crated because she arrived with over crating issues. So she had full access to water most of the time. The surgery for a bladder defect and getting her off Culligan drinking water appears to have corrected her house training issues... since there's no more peeing in the house, she no longer has the opportunity to drink it.

Dogs can be so gross sometimes... but we love them anyway :wink:
I'd be trying to develop some kind of 'system' so your dog couldnt reach its pee after the incident . Something like a thickish piece of foam that will absorb the liquid and fit tightly inside the cage .That way the liquid 'disappears ' and so cant be drunk .
If the dog tries to chew the foam get a piece of small-hole chicken wire to put on top of it so the pee can pass through it .
Yes, you WILL need to wash the foam off with a hose-pipe then let it dry in the sun .
Once the cyclic habit of drinking is broken the dog will probably not return to it and you'll be able to dispense with the pee-catcher.
Dogs are NOT 'gross' just 'natural' . :lol:
Bill Proud, Pulaski, Tenn
You can actually just get those grates that fit in the bottom of the crate and allow the pee to just go through and get caught in the pan. That would only be short term though because I wouldn't want my dog standing on wire mesh forever.
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Dogs are NOT 'gross' just 'natural'

Very true... I should have said by "human" standards.
In some ways they have finer qualities than we humans.
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