How Can I Stop Sheepies From Jumping Up?

Hello- I'm new here and was just wondering if anyone can give me some advice on how to stop sheepies from jumping up on me. My vet says it's a dominance thing. I have two 9 month old spayed OES sisters and we use the command "off" which works sometimes and we put a hand in front of them to keep them down. They are just getting too big to continue this behavior and they leave bruises on my arms and legs. They are such wonderful girls but it's starting to look like my husband beats me! Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
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PS- Just my opinion- Breeding should only be to reproduce qualities that will help insure a life time of love and fun... not grief and heartache due to aggression or poor health. Sheepies with good health and disposition/temperment are awesome to behold.
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Try turning your back on them when they do this and COMPLETELY ignoring them. Train anyone who enters your house to do the same. I've found that "ignoring" is absolute worse punishment for unacceptable behavior. Have you taken them to puppy training classes?
Good luck!
Cathy
P.S. The first TWO years are the hardest! LOL!
I have the same problem with my 4.5 month old! She is still small, so no bruises, but I sure am full of scratches. Anywho, ignoring sure does work, but i have also been told that having a leash on her, when someone comes in, and just stepping on the leash to prevent them from jumping, and ignoring them while they try to jump. WHen they settle down, praise them and give a treat for good behavior. They are very smart and catch on pretty fast. I am certain that Mopsey knows its wrong, but does it because she is a spoiled bratt, and just likes doing it. LOL GOodluck and keep us posted on their progress...
Ouch!! Those puppy claws HURT!! A friend of mine has a new puppy and her husband says she looks like "an attempted murder" with all the bruises and claw marks!
The leash is a great idea and does work in singles or "duets" but my quartet got even MORE excited when the leashes came out and rushed me, bowled me over, rushed the door and anyone or thing in the way! LOL! Not everyone is crazy enough to have 4 at once...and a little over year apart....I only have 3 now, so I can "reflect" over past experiences..it sure is quiet around here with only 3 and I do see a puppy in my near future!!
I believe that we have very little control over what they do....all this is just to keep us busy and make us THINK that we're doing something until they decide to wake up one morning and be "grown up". What do you think?? Is training all a big hoax set out there to keep us busy and let us THINK that we're in control or are THEY simply training us?? With each OES I've been owned by, between the age of 1 and 2 years old, there was a morning when I got out of bed and no one had escaped the crate and emptied the trash can all around the house, one of them hadn't decided that she'd had no training at all, no one had eaten their way through a sheetrocked wall, one was sleeping all comfy just waiting for me to get up and none of them had toilet papered the house from top to bottom. Now each one became "grown up" separately as they were different ages, but I remember each morning that "nothing happened" distinctly! I had done NOTHING different. It was like a light bulb went on in THEIR heads and they decided that they'd messed with me long enough! I swear they each realized that I was too old for this and decided to give me a break! I have been owned by several over the past 50+ years and I like to tell people that OES puppies are just like any other puppy...only on a much GRANDER scale. A puppy will chew your leather shoes. An OES puppy will eat your leather couch. In case you haven't caught on...the NUMBER ONE rule of training an OES is.....keep your sense of humor! OES have a great sense of humor and getting their little "jokes" on us is half the battle! If you survive the first two years, you will have the best friend, best companion and the greatest pet ever! Happy puppy training...or should I say "get happily trained"?!
Cathy, happily trained or gone over the edge??!
A suggestion I was given by my trainer, was to put my knee up when max jumped on me. You just want to pull your knee up to your chest so when he is jumping your knee is on his chest so he cant jump on you. Its hard to explain, but I have had sucess with it.
I loved reading your story Cathy! Thank you.... it made me smile, and it is so true!
I had luck with the knee trick too, although my pup still likes to jump up when someone new comes to the door. The knee trick is easy to suggest to guests, but I don't know what to do to break her of the habit entirely.

-nick
Hi again- Thanks for the ideas (and stories!). I love to hear about the antics of other peoples sheepies. My girls did go to obedience class when they were about 4 months old mainly for socialization. They already knew commands and hand signals but the jumping thing is something we just haven't been able to overcome yet.

After I posted I read through the posting on hitting and uppetybup suggested holding onto their paw... I had forgotten about the New Skete Monks recommending holding onto their paws while they do this until it becomes uncomfortable and they WANT to get down. Maybe this, the knee thing and ignoring them will work. Thanks for you help and taking time to respond!
Jaclin
Cathy,

You sound like one lucky woman, with a sense of humor to boot! :wink: I loved your post. It made me laugh out loud. A lot of things you said reminded me of mine. They also get very excited when the leashes come out! There wiggling bottoms could take down a forest and a few knees in the process. They also seemed to "kind of" grow up. They are still as silly as silly can be, but they haven't torn up anything, or ate anything, or wake up to find all of the couch cushions on the floor and 2 big sheepies wrestling on it. LOL So I guess we are on the right path.
I would love to hear about your quartet, now trio. Your avatar is great! Thanks for sharing. Stormi and co.
HA! Try and stop me! LOL! The picture actually has 5 sheepdogs in it...one was just visiting and one...well only her bum made it in the pic! The original and most recent 4 are in that pic. Unfortunately, we lost one of our males and one of our females (Emma and Steed, Emma was our oldest girl and Steed our youngest boy) this year within a couple of weeks of each other. It was, as you can imagine, devastating. About a month ago, I was contacted by the INFAMOUS Grannie Annie about fostering a female OES. Fostering???? Sure! We've been fostering Taz for 11 years now! Ya think the door only opens one way here?? Fostering is a great way for me to keep the house full of sheepdogs and it takes several years before my husband catches on that they're "permanent". We took Ashley, 7 year old female, into our home to "foster". She's very cool. A bit whacky and therefore, fits right in here! Yup, she's been "officially" adopted. Ashley is now "the baby" at 7 years old. Taz is our oldest. He'll be 12 in November and Abigail turned 10 in July. We've been adopted by all kinds of OES. Emma was blind, Steed was deaf, Ab has Lupus, Taz has a bad hip and Ashley just had surgery for breast cancer and is doing great. For a while we had "see no evil(Emma), hear no evil(Steed), and speaks all the time"(Abigail aka Gabbygail) with "I'll do anything as long as it's cheese related" (Taz). I love this breed with or without baggage. Not a day goes by that they don't manage to have me rolling on the floor laughing and they know it. My friends know that the OES come first and the majority of them have or have had OES. If they don't have one now, they come to my house for a "sheepie fix". I can't imagine life without 2 or 3 or more of them. I actually learned how to walk hanging onto an OES and I'm too old to try to break the "habit" now! It breaks my heart to see how many end up in Rescue and we do everything in our power to educate uprights short and tall on the pros and cons of this breed. Believe it or not there are some people who just shouldn't have them! LOL!! I used to think that only really nice people were owned by OES. Then I revised that to only really smart people were owned by OES. Now I know that OES are so nice and so smart that they'll own anyone! You really DO have to have a really good sense of humor to live with these clowns! Lucky? Yup! Blessed, absolutely, and loving every day of it!
Chatty Cathy has to get some work done now!! Aren't you glad you asked???! :P
What worked out for Lennon and Sofi was ignoring them when they jump at you, telling them NO! very firmly as you turn your back at them. It requires patience but they get the point.

On Frida, what worked was to push her shoulders down as she jumped to greet you, but you have to read their body language to anticipate their jump. Pushing them down after their jump is no good.

If you cannot catch your dog when she jumps at you, don't touch and push forward so it will be obligated to walk backwards, they don't like that at all and will soon get the message.

All these excercises work if you are persistent... but still, when our babies get very exited we get the ocassional scratch or bump... and they hurt sometimes.. ouch!

Good luck!
Jaclin wrote:
Hi again- Thanks for the ideas (and stories!). I love to hear about the antics of other peoples sheepies. My girls did go to obedience class when they were about 4 months old mainly for socialization. They already knew commands and hand signals but the jumping thing is something we just haven't been able to overcome yet.

After I posted I read through the posting on hitting and uppetybup suggested holding onto their paw... I had forgotten about the New Skete Monks recommending holding onto their paws while they do this until it becomes uncomfortable and they WANT to get down. Maybe this, the knee thing and ignoring them will work. Thanks for you help and taking time to respond!
Jaclin


I don't suggest the knee thing or holding their paw! You don't need to resort to that! You don't want the dog to become apprehensive to "greetings" - or to touching their paws - plus you could hurt them unintentionally.

Try ignoring them completely - don't touch them at all - that's giving them attention - which is what they want - negative or positive it doesn't matter to them. Tell them OFF and to SIT - if they respond - give them a treat. Make coming and going no big thing.

The only "negative" thing I would try would be a squirt bottle.

Kristen
Thanks again for all the information. What I've been doing is trying is to read them better and putting my hand in front of their face before they even jump. Walking toward them has also helped (thanks for that advice too). I really don't like the knee thing and am afraid I will hurt them but with the vet's advice I have tried it. Thanks again for your help.
Jaclin
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