stripping undercoat

Hi everyone, I wondered if I could strip out Bella's undercoat, but still leave her in a long shaggy outer coat ? I have heard of the Mars coat king rake, or mars coat stripper, which do I use if they are not the same, if it can be done? Thanks
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Funny, I just did Bosley's yesterday. His was so thick, and now he is cooler and easier to groom, but still has this length.

We have something simliar to the MARS, but basically the same thing. Cuts out small mats, too. Great tool.
I was also thinking of buying one also. How do you actually use it. Just run it through their coat. Or when you line brush? How much do you take out?
I used a narrow tooth comb on the girls.
I have a rake/comb that I use for a quick touch up.
what about those little matts around the ears. I can get them out with a comb but BOY she does not like. Anything else I can use
Mars coat king is great, but you really do have to make them matt free before attempting any strip out of the undercoat otherwise with the mars and other tools like that they just cut a chunk out if you strike a big matt. Kelsey is elderly, still in long coat but all the undercoat removed with the Mars, she only takes a little while to groom through now. :D


Comb for the matts on the the ears, if the matt is tight then get a pair of scissors and starting at the skin end, pop the point of the scissor in the matt, being very careful not to go too close to the skin, and cut up the shaft of the hair to the outer end of the matt then break apart with fingers and using the comb, then you are not pulling too hard to get the matt apart and out. :wink: You can use this technique for any clumped to the skin matts that are hard to get a start to break them apart on any part of the body :D
THANKS :D Bella is matt free, but she has alot of undercoat :!: :!: Do I line brush first? then run the Mars coat king through when I am done? I can't get over all she has so much that she looks like she has no neck 8O Her coat is pretty, but to much underneath.
Yes line brush her firstly, then when all groomed, take the Mars and from underneath lift the coat then and in a very gentle stroke applying no pressure at all, take the first layer and run the mars through it, in a downward motion. Just work up in layers to the top. Can she stand on a grooming table? That makes it so much easier if they are standing to layer her with the Mars. If not then stand her on the ground and do it.

Neck coat/shawl start just above the elbow area on one side and work up in layers to underneath the ear, then do the same for the otherside. The front of the shawl starting at the chest and work up in layers to under the jaw. :wink: For the greys, same technique, always working from underneath up in layers. :wink:

Let's know how you go when you do, do her. :D Kelsey is due for a mars treatment too,she has a lions mane around her neck at the moment and looks like a barrel 8O . I do it about every 1-2 months to keep the undercoat away but still have that long hairy look without the hours of grooming. :P
Thank you so much :D Bella is fine on the grooming table, and you described her perfectly, " looks like a barrel ", like your Kelsey. We will do it this weekend. I will order the Mars coat King today.
I moved to Texas last year from Boston with my 2 year old OES and thought about having him shaved for the summer. Some one told me not to do this as it would remove the undercoat which actually helps to keep him cooler in summer and warmer in winter. Is this true?

Heather
Abigail wrote:
I moved to Texas last year from Boston with my 2 year old OES and thought about having him shaved for the summer. Some one told me not to do this as it would remove the undercoat which actually helps to keep him cooler in summer and warmer in winter. Is this true?

Heather


No, that's a myth. Check out this thread for more info.

http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=2554
is this Mars thing like a furminator-- I saw something on QVC called a Furminator and it was suppose to take out the under coat as well.

I am thrilled with our attempt at grooming- We took S'more into the vet for grooming after she spent a week camping with us in the Smoky Mountains and the groomer said that she looked amazing. She said that we had done a better job with her in the woods than most people do with their dogs at home.

I bought a great brush at the dollar store-- yup 1.00 and she loves it. I was trying to use a slicker brush, but she would bite my hand every time i picked it up. She such a smart dog.

Where do you buy a "mars" thing? I would love to make Smore feel cooler- When she's at home, she sits on the air conditioning vent or parks herself in front of the fan.

Holly
Here is a link for the Mars Coat King to see what they look like.

http://www.hppets.com/pages/catalog/gro ... TAodDWhv3Q
okay so what one do you use on Sheep Doggies?
I would't have a clue which one to try

Holly
Use the medium. That works pretty well for us.
I know that everything is explained throughout the sight but does anyone have a video of how to use the Mars stripper?
How long does the the hair have to be? Right now we are only about 1 1/2 inches.
I brush Rheba frequently and she never acts like she is hating life but I don't think it is her choice activity.
I'm a fairly new sheepie mommy and I want to make sure I am doing everything correctly.
I use a rake on my dogs to keep their undercoat lighter. I don't show, so I'm not concerned with the ultra fluffiness that a full undercoat gives. I think it does help keep them cooler, as well as keep down mats.

RE: mats behind ears. I often use small, blunt-tipped but sharp! scissors to clip into a mat, along the length of the major part of the hair growth, cutting into the cross hairs. I do this in several places, depending on the size of the mat, and then can remove the mat more easily, without significantly changing the long hair look of my dogs.

I find that it is necessary to check ears almost every day to keep mats at bay, or at least manageable.
Agree re the careful cutting the mats out - if they are bad, I always put a comb between the skin and the mat so I don't cut them!!! When I keep one in a puppy cut, I really just use a slicker every 5-6 days to get the undercoat out and they never mat.
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