B hind feet

We had B shaved today.You know she had surgery 3 and one half weeks ago It may be Muscular degent. We have to lift her behind to go outside and being shaved we noticed her back feet curling under when she was attempting walking. she still moves her legs but she can't stand up by herself. she still has feeling in them. What do I do about the curling? Iwas shocked to see that.
Please help.
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The toe curling is a sign of neurological deficits -- it says that her body does not know the correct placement of the feet. Vets usually test for this by turning the feet over and seeing how fast the dog corrects it. If she is doing this and if this is not something she was doing before, she really needs to be seen by a neurologist. Has she been examined by a vet/neurologist since her surgery?
Ok i talked to my husband and he said she had degent mylop ( i cannot spell that) when we took b in she could not raise herself from sitting. the dr said he knew about the feet but he hoped the surgery would correct it but he couldn't promise it. am i making sense? the operation was to remove pressure from spine.
Was that the diagnosis from the vet? Toe curling can be a sign of degenerative myelopathy but it can also be caused by spinal compression and other things as well. I am confused because if your vet thought your dog has DM, I would not expect him to do that surgery.

After surgery, it is normal for them to have problems walking. My dog Chumley could not walk at all. With rehab, B may be able to regain some function. If she is not getting better, I would take her back to the vet so he can assess whether more can be done for her. Has your dog been back to the vet since the surgery?
I keep missing Carrie. We have not found anyone in the surrounding area that does the rehab. We will call our surgeon in san antonio Monday and see what he thinks.
Good luck! In the meantime, massaging her feet may help a bit. I was told that the massage stimulates the nerves and helps the body remember that the feet are there. . .
Is this place near you?

http://www.gcvs.com/rehab/index.htm
Val's information is right on about the curling of the paws. . Max has just started in the last three weeks placing his paws in the correct stance- and - at times he still does curl his left paw under.

Are you doing range of motion excercise with B? If so while you are doing those- try to massage the feet- for as long as you can. It really does stimulate the nerves. We try to massage Max at least 4-5 times a day.

Has B seen her surgeon since the surgery? If so- what is the latest prognosis? Have you found a reputable vet that could do deep laser muscle treatments?

Good luck to you

Lori
I just looked at the pictures of Max and they have the same type incision. Iwas wondering if you have posted the time frame of Max's recovery?
I would love to read about it.
Glenda
Hi Glenda-
Max had surgery on January 24th- one day after his injury. We had to keep him still for 4 weeks- turning him every 2-4 hours and doing range of motion excercises 4-5 times a day. He had NO movement in his back legs at all... and he was 85 pounds of dead weight when we walked him with a belly strap 3 times a day. He had a catheter for a month- and that had to be changed once a week. During that time he developed a really bad urinary infection, so he took a step backwards for a few days.

The original dx was 85-95% recovery rate- and he would be up and around within 6 weeks. They did tell us that larger dogs could take up to a year to fully recover. We think he has been a bit behind for the "norm".

After the cath was removed - we were given the go ahead to start physical therapy. That was at the end of Febuary. Our original plan was to take him back to the hospital where he had his surgery- they had the aquatread tank and other land excercises to offer. He had his first treatment on March 6th I believe. For a couple of reasons- we decided not to continue with that course of treatment. While the aquatherapy didn't work out for Max- I DO strongly encourage you to think about it for B if you can. Seeing Chumley's progress and talking to Carrie makes me think it is the #1 option.

We did research and found a local vet that has been having great success with the deep muscle laser treatments. We made the decision to start those treatments- and he started those around the 9th or 10th of March I think. After the first treatment we saw DRAMATIC progress.. so much so that I really could hardly believe it! He had response to us "pinching" his paws- and drew back his leg after the first treatment.

Since then he has progressed each day. We are still doing range of motion excercises- some of them were recomendations by Carrie- others by our Vet. We do the treatment 3 times a week- and will slowly be "weaning" him off over the next month. He just started a step down dose of prednisone- 10 mg per day.

He can now stand and walk - for at least 20-25 good steps. While he has a "drunk" look at times- he is persistant when he falls- and gets back up and keeps going. We use a rear end leash (just started it) and we love it!

He is dry most mornings now- but we do still use a mens serinty pad and a belt while he is in the house..just in case! This weekend he tried to raise his leg to pee on a bush. We were thrilled.

Each dog is different- just like people. The more you can move and massage and stimulate - the better. Max's paws turned under too.. and now he has all but stopped that. Just does it when he gets tired- OR when he tries to move to fast.

We have been very lucky that he is so patient. He has never snapped or growled at us- and I am SURE he has been in pain at times - in the first few weeks it was all we could do to lift and help him.

I know that Chumley and B have been a bit ouchy at times- and that is probobly better when I think about it. At least you knew to stop because they were in pain.

Of course- Max is only 4- and Chumley is 10 I believe. So that is a factor too!

How old is B?

A good vet or neurosurgeon is your best friend. We decided that we wanted someone to fight for Max as hard as he was fighting for himself.

Please continue to reach out to the forum for support and advice. Val and Chumley gave us such hope and support- and the other members of the forum have been like family.

Lori
thank you for answering. your progess makes me fill better, but do you know why she trembles? it is like she just sits and trembles. she still can't stand. she eats and potties normal.
tall turtle wrote:
thank you for answering. your progess makes me fill better, but do you know why she trembles? it is like she just sits and trembles. she still can't stand. she eats and potties normal.



Have you spoken to your vet or neurosurgeon? PLEASE don't delay in calling. I don't have the answer about her trembling- could be a number of things- including a reaction to a med she is on- a neuro problem or infection.... Call the doctor and talk through the symptoms ASAP. The trembling is an indication of a problem that needs to be checked. I know she was just shaved. Is she warm enough? Calling the doctor will give you the comfort of knowing you are doing everything to make certain of a full recovery for B.
I just talked to the Dr who did the surgery in San Antonio, and he does not seem to be alarmed. He thinks maybe the jerky movements she makes by turning around to look at her back so often is her getting feeling back there. If the trembles get harder or faster to take her to our vet here. We are taking her in Monday for a follow up visit. We are going to ask about the laser treatment and about all the other things I've heard about here.
By the way B is 13
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