I have 2 wonderful Sheepies, Bella and Winston. Bella is 3 and Winston is 11. I have a deck off my family room with a sliding glass door.There is a grass area off the deck and it extends about 30 feet where it abuts up to a wood area. For the firest 2 years when I let them out , they went out on long ropes and peed on the grass. As you can guess, all the grass died and I am just left with mud, with the wnter snow melt and the rain it has turned into a quagmire of mud. Lat summer I put in an invisable fence, which has been a godsend.I ran the fence out into the woods hoping the dogs would due their business out their. That didn't happen. They just kept peeing on the , now mustly gone grass/mud area. Yesterday the weather turned nice here in NH and Skip and I went out and cleare the wood area of lower branches so it opened up the wood and too make it more inviting for the dogs to venture into. I started walking them out on a leash one at a time to hopefully change and make permanent a new spot where they will go pee. My goal is to eventualy replace the mud with new lawn, but only if I am sucessful. I will take them out everytime on the leash and they both go in the woods with no problem. Has anyone out there tried this before and were you sucessful??