How big should I be at 12 weeks?

My new friend Max is just great. We got him a few weeks ago and I was just wondering how big an old english sheepdog should be at 12 weeks of age? I mean I know everyone is going to be different but is there a general weight/size that a 12 week old pup should be? He will be 12 weeks this Saturday and I will be taking him to the vet for more shots so I will know how much he weighs but I am pretty sure he is close to 20 pounds and has been eating quite a bit lately. I ask this because when I went to pick up Max from the breeder they also had a 12 week old pup there for sale and if I remeber right she was much bigger but it could have been that we were comparing a barely born pup to 3 month old pup. Any information would be helping. Is there some sort of growth chart I can referenece any where? Thanks in advance.
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I think it really varies quite a bit with sheepies since adults range from 60 to 100+ lbs.


If it helps my pup Finnegan who will turn 12 weeks on Saturday weighed 21.8 lbs yesterday at the Vets. He has an adult OES.org brother who weighs around 100lbs.

He was 16lbs at 9 Weeks and 18lbs at 10 Weeks. I hope this helps.
sorry..I don't have any information for you...I just had to comment on how adorably cute Max and Finnigan are together! :hearts:
That sounds about right for 12 weeks. I don't remember exactly what Beaureguard weighed at that age, but I do remember he averaged about 10 lbs per month of age until he reached about 80 lbs/8 months. He slowed down a bit after that and continued growing until he was about 18-20 months old. The last time I weighed him he was at 97.6 lbs.
They vary so much I would just go by how your pup feels. If the pup does not feel thin, then everything is fine.

My boy Tucker was already 40 lbs by 12 weeks, and is at least 70 lbs now at 5 months.
Thanks for the comments. I have been reading and I think he is fine...can feel his ribs but not too much and has plenty of energy so I think he is doing fine. I guess I will have to try not to worry so much.
I think the breeder said Max's dad was about 98 lbs and his mom was about 70 lbs. He was the biggest of the litter when we picked him up and I thought should probalby make a pretty good size oes but only time will tell. I will love him no matter if he is 50 lbs or 100 lbs. Just want him to be healty.
wow and I though Finnegan was big. I guess it probably also depends on when they hit their growth spurt. We are expecting Finnegan to make a big jump soon.
Breena is 40.8 at 4 1/2 months. Vet says he thinks she will be around 75lbs at full growth. But I think her mom was 75 and dad was 105. My baby is getting to be a big girl. :roll:
Well...vet says Max is about 15 lbs. and is a little thin but not unhealthy so that is good. He said he could gain some weight but not to worry about it. Thanks for your comments.
Glad you got good news! :D
Sounds like Max is doing great.
I still do the rib test on Mojo at two years old.
He grew about the same way Tammy's did. 10 pounds times the age in months until about eight months. Then he started slowing down. Now he hovers around 105.
What kind of food do you feed your OES's? I feed mine Purina Large Breed Puppy food mixed with a Pedigree Puppy food (50/50). Is there any food you or your dog's like the best?
We have been exclusively a Pro Plan family. Went from puppy dry, to a mix of puppy and large breed at 8 months, and finally all large breed.
I rotate between Nutro Ultra Large Breed, Pro Plan Large Breed and Merrick a few times a year. Some research says that transitioning a few foods throughout the year (slowly, as if you would any change) will help your dog from becoming finicky and may also prevent food related allergies that can sometimes occur with age.
We also supplement with wheels of cheese and filling burritos. :lol:

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I've heard that you double their weight at 14 weeks and the number you get is how much they should get. I'm not sure it's just what I was told. What is considered small for an OES?
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I've heard that you double their weight at 14 weeks and the number you get is how much they should get. I'm not sure it's just what I was told. What is considered small for an OES?


Oh gosh...I sure hope this isnt accurate...if it is, then my Bert will be 90LBs! 8O

I know lots of sheepies get this big, but I'm kinda hoping for a mid-size guy! :lol:
Well if it is true about the weight at 14 weeks...Max better start gaining some weight in the next two weeks if he even wants to get to 60 lbs. He is 15 lbs at 12 weeks.
OES grow until they're about 18 months old so taking a number from so early in development can't give you too good of a prediction. Clyde was about 30 pounds at 14 weeks and that would've made him a tiny little guy at 60 pounds. He's actually 99 pounds now at 2 years old and not fat.
I am feeding Max a 50/50 combination of Pedigree Puppy (that was the breeders food) and Purina Large Breed Puppy. If I understand it right the large breed puppy food is supposed to slow down the growth of the puppy so that the bones and joints do not grow too fast which could possibly lead to future hip or joint problems in the adult stages. I may be wrong but someone else chim in and tell me your thoughts.

Once we run out of the Pedigree Puppy we plan on giving 100% large breed puppy food...any thoughts on this?
Breena is almost 5 months and I just switched her to 100% Eukanuba Large Breed per my vets request. We were on the just puppy formula but have since switched. She likes the food so thats a plus. My vet also said that the large breed food is better because it has special stuff in it to help bone growth so that they don't grow so fast and aren't so suceptable to joint and bone problems later line life.
Does anyone have any opinion on how long to wet the puppy food? I am still dampening Bree's food.
Finnegan is now around 25 or 26lbs almost 15 weeks. He is eating Innova Large Breed Puppy but he had started on Purina Pro Plan Large Breed Puppy.
Max and Me,

The only "rule of thumb" that I've ever had any faith in is that a puppy will generally grow up to be close to the weight of it's parent of the same sex, plus or minus about 10%. And even that is a guess as genetics from generations further back can have an effect on a puppy's final size.

Throughout their growth the guidelines are generally that if the dog is not skinny, as defined by your breeder and/or vet and if you can feel his ribs so he is clearly not overweight then he/she is probably at a healthy weight and is growing well. Breeding lines, individual activity levels and metabolisms vary so much that it is almost useless to compare one dog's growth patterns to another. Refer questions regarding his current growth rate and health to your breeder or vet.

Our two boys had totally different growth patterns. Martin Zephram, our slightly older and distinctly larger Bobtail boy grew at a pretty constant rate and got most of his size and weight by the time he was 9 months old. From 9 to 18 months he only gained his last 20 pounds and very little height, at most 1 inch, and is now a solid 100lbs and 24" tall. Virgil Tiberius on the other hand gave me "fits" about his eventual weight and size. He grew much more irregularly that Martin, a little spurt here, a little spurt there to the point that at 9 months I was worried that he was going to be something of a "shrimp" when full grown - remember I like my OES as large as possible while still retaining sound structure and proper proportions. Virgil wasn't even 65lbs and 21" tall at 9 months. Then at about 10 months he had his main growth spurt and by 12 months he was 80lbs and 24" tall, very close to his final weight and height of 85lbs and 25" tall. I was really thankful for that final growth spurt.

You are correct about the large breed puppy formulae being designed to moderate growth rates and minimze the potential for joint and bone problems that can occur if a puppy grows too fast. Keep Max on large breed puppy formula for at least 8 months, preferably 1 year before slowly transitioning him to large breed adult food. Going to an adult food before this point can lead to growth problems and "hot spots" as most adult foods have higher protein and calorie levels than puppy formulas.

So just keep your boy properly fed, exercise him regularly and give it time to see how big he ends up. No matter what his final size, it is of course health that counts and you'll love him no matter what.

Thanks and Cheers

Carl
I absolutely love this forum. I researched oes before jumping in and this forum has given me answers I was needing. For example, what to feed my pup. Thanks Max and me! Lucy is 5 months and I just bought new food and was wondering how long to keep her on puppy food. I get large breed Eukanuba. I also give her fresh grilled or baked meat mixed in with the kibble. She is a "Hoss!" 50lbs+ at 5 months. She is lean, too. Her dad was extra large 110lbs and mom an 80lb oes. Love her girth! And love all the info! Keep it coming.
Salley and Lucy
Thanks Salley...yes this site is wonderful. You can ask questions on just about anything...there is so much information here. About how long to feed the puppy food...I plan on feeding Max puppy food (Large breed of course) for at least 8 months to a year...I think I have read some where that they continue to go until they are 18 months old but do most of the growing in the first year. I am sure someone will chime in and tell us a good answer.
I have to admit I am pretty worried now my lil Oreo is only 7.5 lbs and is 8 weeks. But my vet says he's fine we been giving him 2 cups of puppy chow everyday. Any advise anyone?
Max is adorable! Y'all making me want a puppy, but I've been an adult rescue person now for ............32 years 8O 8O 8O 8O ! How'd that happen? Don't think I have the energy for a pup, but oh, imagine looking at such cute faces and laughing as they discover the new world. MO was my last pup........of either breed; Pyr or sheepie.

Max's parents are about average, Dad was a bit hefty. Being the big pup, he'll probably be closer to Dad in size. For sure, health is far more important than size. Size comes into play when the get older and you have to lift them into the car to visit the vet, etc. You have years to worry about that.

There are many good dog food brands on the market, just stay away from the cheap stuff. You may spend more on a better quality up front, but cheap may surface as expensive health problems later.

Congratulations on your cutie Max! :cheer:
This site makes me laugh! I think it's the only place I have ever seen where people pick out a 8,9, or sometimes 10 year old thread and post to it like it was just started yesterday. Do the really not see the thread was started YEARS ago?!
:twitch: Well, the date is to tiny up there. Maybe if it was to the left I'd see it. Eyes ain't what they used to be.
Wow....Guest.....I only hope you are just trying to be "funny'? :pupeyes:


Need to lighten up a little bit wouldn't you agree.....? :sidestep:
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