Ok... More Max talk!
Ok- here is where we are at right now... and I would welcome thoughts. I have contacted a local -very reputable Vet- (small/ large animals)- and he wants to evaluate Max for deep muscle laser treatments. Said he has gotten 1000 pound horses up and running after spinal surgery. Am I grasping here?? Anyone have any first hand or even second hand experience. Should we stick with canine only services??? 
Lori |
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| Equine and Canine same sort of treatments cross over very well to either.
The muscle therapist I have used here, started with race horses and her services now do canine as well. She does deep laser muscle therapy as well. Chirorprator who does a lot of racing grey hounds and show dogs started with equine and crossed over to include canine. So no you are not grasping there, deep muscle laser treatment, helps keep the muscles stimulated and from shrinking and also helps stimulate the nerves. I've actually going to see one in the next few weeks for my elderly girl for treatment. 
So I say go see them and see what they have to say and what they can offer Max in the form of therapy to help his situation and they sound like they have a good positive attitude as well, which helps also  |
| I just talked to Carrie and she is APPALLED at what your therapist says. Carrie says the fact that Max is moving his legs on his own is HUGE and that she thinks that you were probably dealing with someone who has no idea what is involved in animal neurological physical therapy. She says to expect an animal to just up and walk or swim is crazy and that they have to build up to it. She said the cart is an awful idea for an animal that has movement because they begin to rely on it, causing further deterioration in their independent functioning.
Carrie says she looked at the website for your hospital and that they say that the staff is trained in human PT with some additional training to deal with animals. She says that they don't list the therapists names, which is a clue -- that you are not dealing with experts. She suspects you are dealing with a vet tech who just took a weekend course. She said that people like you encountered give the profession a bad name and it drives her nuts. Carrie is the Vice President of the national organization and she is going to find her statewide liaison list and forward us the ohio contact and also put the word out on their listserv. She says she feels awful for what you have been put through and she would be happy to talk to you about the field, the training, finding a good practitioner and to just give you hope. She would be happy to assist you in whatever way she can and encourages you not to give up. |
| Valerie- what a relief to hear a professional opinion of the treatment we have received. Your comments from Carrie are giving us hope again.
It is a really pretty day in Ohio- and so when John got home this afternoon he played with Max and then put him out on the back deck for some fresh air and sunshine. When I got home an hour or so later - he had made his way clear to the other end... and when I went out to say Hello- he ABSOLUTLY was able to pull up on his right leg and take a split second step. He grabbed his leash- and wanted to play tug of war. I took him in the house and played on the floor with him- and he was moving his back legs. In the past week he seems so much better. I can't wait to get more information and talk to Carrie!!! ((((( Hugs ))))))) Max, Lori and John |
| Lori, I'm so sorry you are going through a rough time with that place. What a wonderful resource you have here to get through this.
What wonderful hands your Chum is in, Val. This woman sounds WONDERFUL. I think we should all buy her something HUGE for helping Chum and Max Hmm..what kind of dogs does she like? |
| Lori -- that is awesome. Your boy is a fighter and so are you! I am feeling really optimistic for him. And really mad at that stupid fake rehab place. |
| Yeah I'm glad you've decided to still find alternatives to get the best treatment for Max!!!
Years ago, My previous Sheepie was diagnosed with a disease very few dogs walk away from. Although my vet was awesome and I didn't go through what you did, she encouraged when I would bring up the subject of alternative methods. Shaggy went on to live another 6 years. You keep trying and I'm so glad others on the forum have experience and can offer you advice. Hugs to Max! Marianne and the boys |
| I think I'm going to write Carrie a wonderful thank you note on behalf of both Chum and Max. With a copy to Dr. Taylor (I think he is the head of the clinic) as this woman deserves a huge raise.
Lori, I'm not familar with the deep laser. Ask me in a year when my daughter is in PT school.  (If she gets in) I know that with the ultrasound, there is a limited number of recommended sessions (3 or 4). Any additional sessions don't provide any benefit. See if it is similar for the laser.
I'm very excited about the possibility of good PT for Max. It is such a critical part of rehabing. |
Abuckie wrote: Ok- here is where we are at right now... and I would welcome thoughts.
I have contacted a local -very reputable Vet- (small/ large animals)- and he wants to evaluate Max for deep muscle laser treatments. Said he has gotten 1000 pound horses up and running after spinal surgery. Am I grasping here?? Anyone have any first hand or even second hand experience. Should we stick with canine only services??? Lori Grasping? I would call it INGENIOUS! I think you should explore all options you are open to and your pocketbook will allow. No rules said you have to do only one thing. I personally think he will benefit from as much therapy as he is able to handle. Because each type of therapy may offer him something different in terms of full recovery. I hope Val doesn't mind me referring to her again, but looking at her whole entire experience with Chum and if you happened to read back pretty far of how many different vets they had been too. She is so inspirational because she just kept trying and trying and look at the AMAZING outcome. What a sweetie your Max is! It sure sounds like he's trying his best. You just have to find the place that can give him the services he needs to rebuild whatever is needed to get him back on track. I have no doubts he will do the rest! Sheepies really know how to step it up for their loved ones! He's lucky to have such a caring family and it sounds as if he knows that and is trying to show you with his sweet behavior. |
| Just based on what Max did last night he shows he is a fighter and in no way ready to give up!! He's a trooper! That fills me with hope for him and you. You're on the right track - keep going.
It's infuriating how you were treated at the other clinic.  |
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