puppy question

AT what age do OES puppies' eyes change color? My new puppy is now almost 5 weeks old and the breeder says he still has bright blue eyes, but she expects them to change - however she also said they usually change by 4 weeks. Can anyone add to that? Can you tell I can't wait to ge tthis guy home as well?
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First off, congratulations on your new baby....and I am glad you found this site, it is great for advice. I hope you will stay awhile and tell us about your new fur family member.
I am not sure what to tell you on eye color....from what I thought it can change from around 3-5 week. I would think you have a good chance for a blue eyed OES since they are already 4 weeks. I bet someone else might know more than me. :wink:
Let us know when you get your baby home. Stormi and co.
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AT what age do OES puppies' eyes change color? My new puppy is now almost 5 weeks old and the breeder says he still has bright blue eyes, but she expects them to change - however she also said they usually change by 4 weeks. Can anyone add to that? Can you tell I can't wait to ge tthis guy home as well?


Just curious.....why does your breeder "expect" them to change???

:?: Do you not want blue eyes and are concerned that they haven't changed yet?

It is my understanding that the "blue" eye of a dog that eye's will eventually change is much different than the "blue" of a blue eyed dog. If they are bright blue at 5 weeks - I would be willing to bet they are going to stay blue (maybe not as bright - but I would doubt that they would change to brown - and that's your only two options! :wink: )

Kristen
Thanks for the answers. Let me explain first that I don't care what color eyse he (Morgan) has - but having to wait for him to be ready to come home is killing me - I lost my OES Max to old age the day before Morgan was born and I guess obsessing about eye color is giving me something to focus on while I wait. Actually since Max had very dark brown eyes I guess blue might be easier to cope with - Morgan's markings are very different than Max's were. I hadn't even considered he might have blue eyes until recently. I don't know why the breeder thinks they will change to brown -experience I guess.
Welcome to the forum. I'm so sorry for your loss, but also want to congratulate you on your new baby!
When do you pick your pup up?
Thank you - losing Max waaas sooo much harder than I thought it would be. I don't think anything else has ever been as painful in my life. He was a great friend ever since we rescued him at age 3.
Morgan is my first OES puppy and I am very excited. I am getting him August 15 - I am driving to Florida to pick him up, whats two days each way!
Sorry to hear about Max & congratulations on your new addition. I hope you can check out the Rainbow Bridge category posts. This forum helped me get through the loss of our beloved Newman and has been a great resource with our new (...well maybe 6 months now) puppy Frank. Even with the some of the similar OES traits, Frank is very different in physical appearance & personality than Newman was. I still get very sad thinking about Newman, but the pup around the house fills the house with joy. They are such fluffy goofballs!
:cry: sorry about max but i hope you enjoy your little one about the eyes why did she said it will changed colors/ i have one with a brown(black) and blue one his eyes are still the same color since he was born i haven't notice any changes :wink:
First of all, sorry for you guys' losses. Max and Newman sound like great dogs. I got my first dog about 4 months ago, and he has changed my life. All for the better. He is almost 6 months and ready to be neutered, which means I am getting another pup. A female. I get her labor day weekend. I'm super excited.
Here is my questions ... Does breed matter with the likely-hood of changing colors? What breed is your new puppy? Do you know if they have changed at all? Do the eyes change quickly or gradually?
Thanks for the help. I like this site ... I always have random questions. Also, when should a dog be neutered. I have been told at 6 months. Concur?
Thanks!
Jonathyn
Sorry for your loss of Max.
I know how hard it is to wait. :wink:
I have a sheepie but lost a beloved siamese cat 2 years ago and had to wait 3 months for my new kitten. It was sooo hard. I spent ages looking at the photos his breeder sent every 2 weeks and obsessed about what colour he was. :roll: As siamese are born very light and it can be quite a few weeks to tell what colour they are.
It was worth the wait though. Enjoy your new puppy.
Mim, this post was 2004 not recent! it is our sweet Morgan and kerry who is a member and a good one I might add!!!! :lol:
Jonathyn wrote:
Thanks for the help. I like this site ... I always have random questions. Also, when should a dog be neutered. I have been told at 6 months. Concur?
Thanks!
Jonathyn


Hi, Jonathyn!

The answer? Medically, ideally you never neuter a male. Girls are a different and more complicated matter. And in reality most people neuter their males anyway for population control reasons and rightly so if they don't feel they can keep them from reproducing.

Six mos is a pretty arbitrary age. Research suggests, again for health reasons, one should at least wait until growth plates have closed, which is a bit of a guessing game, but on average 14 mos for larger breeds, later for giant breeds, and earlier for toy breeds.

My own vet recommends waiting till at least a year old for large breeds. That said, lots of people neuter their dogs at 6 mos of age and it's not the end of the world, especially if it makes you feel better. Some people think if you let them mature as an entire male, they'll become aggressive. In actuality, neutering early only really has the potential to positively impact things like a propensity towards inter-male aggression, marking (supposedly, though to me that's a potty training issue) and roaming. In OES at least, it's been my experience that intact males tend to be more temperamentally stable than their neutered counterparts. But that may be skewed by the fact that they also tend to come from lines that were bred for good temperaments to begin with, and are usually owned by more experienced dog people who tend to put more emphasis on training their dogs.

My neutered male had to be trained not to mark, still humps one of his sisters on a daily basis, is pushier with other dogs than his intact brother, and OES as a rule are not given to roaming. So you have to consider things like breed and your lifestyle. In your case, since you're thinking of getting another puppy and a female this time around I would at least make sure he's neutered before she has her first season because most people understandably don't want to have to deal with making sure that there are no "accidents". Again, the when depends a bit on breed and line. My girls don't typically have their first season till they're about a year old. Other girls, especially in breeds that mature more quickly, might come in as early as six months old and possibly even younger I suppose.

So short version: go with six months if it makes you feel better/makes your life easier. But definitely consider waiting if you plan to be very active with your dog, since dogs neutered young (pre-maturity) are prone to more orthopedic issues among other things.

Kristine
OES Mommy wrote:
Mim, this post was 2004 not recent! it is our sweet Morgan and kerry who is a member and a good one I might add!!!! :lol:


DUH!!!!! Thanks.
I only read the date on the last post before mine.
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