Canine Lepto

Has anyone had their pup vaccinated for canine leptospirosis? My Vet who I've know for over 20 years suggested this shot because of the problem my area has with racoons and squirrels. I've read some negative things about the shot - getting a reaction, etc. But I do have a squirrel problem and racoons, well, they are a HUGE problem here.

Anyone?
Thanks,
Diane
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My 3 year old OES had the Lepto vaccine in the spring of this year and had a bad reaction to it. He vomited, had swollen lips and broke out with hives on his belly. We had to bring him back and they gave him a shot of Benadryl and kept an eye on him for the day.
My second OES died from a vaccination reaction but do not know for sure if it was from the lepto vaccine as he has a combination of vaccines. If you have him vaccinated make sure it is with the 4 servo vaccine.
I believe my vet stopped giving this in her vaccination protocol. I think I would weigh your odds. Like will you believe your dog out a lot unattended? If not, that would probably reduce your risk.
Umm, I was thinking along the same lines as you guys. My breeder said the same thing too...Reactions can be pretty bad...He isn't expected to get that shout for several more weeks so at our next Vet visit, I am going to ask ALOT of questions...

I don't expect him to EVER be out unsupervised by me - maybe for a minute or two at most. I never like my dog out alone even though we are fenced in. Too many things out there to eat!!!!

I'm leaning towards a no on that vaccine...Unfortunately my Doc ( who I really do trust completely and has been my Vet and friend fo 20 years ) lost a dog to lepo so I think he is alittle over cautious.

Thanks for the advice.
Diane
Our breeder told us NOT to give Wilbur the Lepto vaccine because some OES have bad allergic reactions and if you do a google search of it, you can see terrible reactions across many breeds.

However, our vet (who owns the practice, has it filled with specialists, had a TV show, writes for the paper and speaks all over the world on animal topics) didn't know why our breeder was telling us that.

Turns out our breeders line has has some bad reactions to it but told us we could give him the Lepto vaccine next year (he is only 3 months now). But I don't think I will after all the research I have done on it.

I believe my breeder more than the vet. Sort of makes me wonder WHY my vet didn't know this...

Thing is, my parents live on 100 acres filled with wildlife and I would love to let Wilbur run wild there. But I wouldn't let a doctor administer an injection to me after he told me I could die from it. Why is there a chance with dogs? If this were the case with humans, the vaccine would be pulled off the shelves.

I should have had a baby instead.

Just kidding.

I am going to the vet's tomorrow so I will ask him more questions and see what he says.
I've been asking people in my area about whether they gave the shot or not to their dogs and seems like the majority did. We have a large "doggie" school locally and everyone there said they did receive it. They base this on the large population o squirrels and racoons in the area. Apparently your dog does not have to come in contact with the animal itself. The disease is transmitted through the "rodrnt's" urine - which of course you can't see! So, if you have lots of trees, etc and squirrels around, chances are the urine is on the grass, sidewalk, driveway, etc...I don't know. I'm still thinking....
Well, after I said that I thought it was not a part of our vet's protocol, I received a postcard for a Lepto Vaccination so I guess we do get that!! We have a lot of squirrels here too and our dogs sure love rolling around in stinky smells.

I would just always suggest not getting all of your vaccinations at once. My vet lets me split them all up (about 2 weeks apart) and only charges me for the initial office visit. It's way easier on their immune system if you have the time to do it that way...
Yes, my Vet does the same thing...splits up the visits and time between vaccines and only charges me once. I actually thought I was getting a specila break because I've known him over 20 years :wink:

Does anyone know what the side effect might be? I've rad possible reaction, but not what the reaction could be?
Thanks.
Beware! my 10 year old mix breed rottie/dobbie just had this shot monday he now has a high fever, wont eat, and looks like he is on his last leg, I questioned the vet on why my dog would need this and why I was not asked if I wanted to give this to him, only think they say is that he has had it before. They neglicted to tell me that they changed manufacutors of the drug and now I am paying the price in more ways than one. Why are they not held accountable for what they do to our pets, we are the only one's who can speak for them, I would rather have my dog with me than not.
My dogs just got the vaccine last week and they seem fine.
Since I started this post, I thought I may update everyone..

We made it through the lepto shot. It was given in two doses. The first one we did ahve a little reaction to...just sleepiness and wouldn't eat and weakness in the muscle where the shot was given. I mactually did run him to the dogy ER when he was so sleepy and weak, but he was fine.

For the follow up shot, my Vet gave him a shot of something and I forget now what it is to counter act any possible side effect or reaction. He came home and was fine.

If anyone is considering this shot, you can ask for the shot to counter any possible reaction and you should be okay. I think its demerol...For the smaller breeds, my Vet gives the shot in the morning and keeps the dog there a few hours to watch for any reaction.
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If anyone is considering this shot, you can ask for the shot to counter any possible reaction and you should be okay. I think its demerol...


Are you sure demerol was given to counteract any possible reaction or was it to control pain?
"Demerol is in a class of drugs called narcotic analgesics. It relieves pain."

Leptosporosis is a disease that can be fatal however when our vet offers it we decline... at least over the past few years. We asked how many cases had been confirmed in the area and I think he had seen maybe two in all the years.

BUT... Leptosporosis is a disease that can be difficult to diagnose (from what I've read). Then too, there are different strains of the disease so how do you know you've vaccinated for the "right" one? And to make it even more confusing to me, they may recommend the vaccination every 6-8 months for dogs in high risk areas. It's a tough decision.

Here's an article that might help-
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... icleid=454
Oops, you're right...Not demerol...that is for pain. Benedryl? I think that is it. I have to get out my receipt and look. Its been a while...but I know if you ask, the Vet can give you a shot to counter any allergic reaction...

In my area, there have been quite a few cases actually of lepto. Two people in my training class plus my Vet had a dog die from it within the last couple of years. But in some areas it is not as common. I know my breeder in Montana says it is not given in her area...I live on Long Island in NY and it is recommended here...Like in humans, the cure can kill you if the disease doesn't...The decision really has to be left up to the individual. But there are precautions to take and I suggest anyone getting the shot ask about those precautions.
my dog, a 2 1/2 year old french mastiff was not vaccinated for lepto. we live on long island in new york. plenty of small wildlife. he did get the disease and was so sick i thought he would die. he was 140 lbs before and lost ten pounds in five days. after four days in the 24 hour emergency hospital ($4000.00 later) he is doing great but his kidney and liver enzymes are still being monitored. we are hoping there is no long term damage.
i was not offered this vaccine but speaking with people in my neighborhood at least 7 out of 10 had their dogs vaccinated.
my dog will get the shot next year.
Yes, it would be benedryl (generic - diphenhydramine) given to prevent a reaction. It works due to it's antihistimine properties.

It is commonly used with people for bee sting reactions (the less severe kind), and prophylactically for blood transfusions to prevent blood reactions. It is a handy drug to keep in the medicine cabinet and first aid kit.

Lepto is an optional vaccine now - it used to be automatically given in a combo vaccine in many areas. You should give or not give it based on your geographical area and your individual dog's risk factors. :D
When Nigel had his 2nd set of puppy shots he got the Lepto...and his eyes swelled up and got really red around his eyes. Needless to say I had them leave it out of the mix the next time. They gave him Benadryl in the emergency clinic too.
This is the part of the shot that gave Morgan a huge cyst that had to be surgically removed - we won't give it again.
IVE HAD 2 PUPPS DIE IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS FROM LEPTO MY OTHER TWO DOGS WERE VACCINATED FOR IT AND HAVE BEEN HAPPY AND HEALTHY ALL THIER LIVES. I IMPLORE ALL OF YOU TO VACCINATE YOUR DOGS IT SURE BEATS LETTING THEM DIE (LEPTO IS ALMOST ALWATS FATEL IN PUPPIES). IF YOUR DOG IS YOUNG OR OLDER THE LEPTO SHOT IS A MUST JUST ASK FOR BENYDROL TO STOP ANY NEGITIVE REACTION. LEPTO CAN LIVE IN YOUR YARD FOR 6 MONTHS AND IS CARRIED BY RODENTS. CLEAN UP ALL STANDING WATER AND DONT LEAVE YOUR DOGS UNATTENDED IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF SQUIRRLES RATS OR RACOONS IN YOUR NIEBORHOOD
I'm so sorry for your loss. :( It sounds like you're in a high risk area.
Are you revaccinating your two remaining dogs twice a year?

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Leptospiral vaccines for dogs offer about 6 to 8 months of protection. Dogs that are at high risk of contracting Leptospiral infections should be vaccinated twice a year.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... icleid=454
I'm very sorry about your dogs. :cry:

The thing about the lepto vaccine is that it is only confers immunity for about 6-8 mos before you have to revaccinate, and it doesn't cover all strains.

My almost 11 year old was diagnosed with two strains this spring/summer, neither of them covered by vaccines, though she is no longer vaccinated anyway except for rabies due to her age. We only thought to test because her liver values came back indictative of an active infection as part of routine geriatric screening, and we'd had a lot of rain/flooding shortly before that which made my vet instantly think lepto.
We treated and she's fine. We were lucky in that neither strain is particularly deadly. So, yes, vaccinating can be beneficial in certain areas at certain times, but it probably pays to consult with a vet to see if the benefits outweigh the risks for the individual dog.

Kristine
I am always suspisios of anonymous postings against anything. Could be my cynical nature but I always wonder what the agenda is.
I had my 4 year old Schipperke vaccinated for Leptospirosis and distemper. The next day we were unable to pet her or pick her up as she would bite us if we tried. She also acted very weird, trying to hide from us. I called my vet and they told us to bring her back in. They gave her two shots, one for pain and one steriod of some type. Today she is better, allowing us to pet her and pick her up, but still not back to normal. On her chart they have placed : "possible lepro reaction". Definately a reaction to one of the shots, her condition could not have been coincidental, and I guess they believe it was from the Leptospirosis vaccine. I will not get this vaccine for her again.
Wow, this is an old post and I was the author of it originally...I posted that over three years ago and I can tell you I now get my dogs vacinated with the bendryl FIRST to avoid any reaction. No problem since then. And I am glad I get the shot as I am in a high risk area. We have had had no problems at all getting the shots. If anyone lives in a high risk area and is fearful of giving the shot, just tell the Vet to give the benydril first. And I always recommend getting ANY shots early in the morning so if there is a problem, you can go back to the Vet while he/she is still open for regular business and avoid a trip to the ER.
Hank just had his booster shot of Lepto- He did great both times.. No reaction at all. Our vet said it's mostly very small dogs that have a reaction.

We've have a big outbreak of it here in Oregon this year- A couple of sealions washed up dead and later it was shown they died from Lepto. It's never been part of the shots here until this year.

My vet said that even if a dog sniffs the urine of an animal that has lepto it can be transmitted. With all the raccoons and squirrels we have- I had to get it- Hanks never out without me, but he smells everything!


-Haha- I didn't even notice the date. :o
Leptospirosis is transmittable to humans! Get your dogs vaccinated.
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