What does 'limited AKC registration' mean?

Hello everyone! I am interested in getting and OES for my family. I am trying to get familiar with the breed, but I still have some questions. I noticed that some of the breeders I have found online mention that they offer limited AKC registration and I don't understand what the 'limited' part means. Also, is paying $1000 to $1400 the norm for this breed of dog? I wouldn't mind rescuing an adult dog, either. Does anyone happen to know if there are any available in North or South Carolina? Thanks for any information you can share with me ;)
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I'm not positive, but I think a limited registration means that while your dog is registered as a purebred, you may not breed him/her and get registrations for the puppies.

I think most breeders do this to try to prevent more people from becoming backyard breeders with the breeder's puppies, or to try and control "their" breeding line.

I'm sure that someone with more AKC registration experience will chime in to set me straight!

As far as NC rescue goes, there are lots of people involved there! Our rescue list has 6 contacts,

http://www.oes.org/html/oes_rescue.shtml

and there's the OESRNSE (Old English Sheepdog Rescue Networs of the South East) who inculdes North Carolina in their mission:

http://oesrescuenetwork.org/

You can also check in with neoesr's website -- occasionally dogs from outside of New England are listed there.

http://www.NEOESR.org

Petfinders' website will help too! Thing is, while generic dog shelters and websites like Petfinders do a great job, they really don't match people up with "just the right dog" when a person wants a specific breed, like a breed-specific rescue can.

My wife and I waited 6 months for our sheepie through Rescue. I wanted a big dog, and Joan and I both needed a house trained dog that could go all day. We got a 106 pound 3 year old, who went all day while we were at work, and even 13 hours once or twice without an accident.

WELCOME to the forum!
That sounds familiar, as far as the registration goes. Breeders are also known to insist the puppy be spayed/neutered to insure the lineage they oversee is not sullied.

As to the price, that sounds like a true "in it for the money" breeder's price. I guess if you want a show quality dog and a lively pedigree then that's what you pay.

If you want a loving pet for your family then you can do a lot better on price. I have seen OES puppies for sale in the Atlanta paper for as much as $800 and as little as $300. If you check the Sunday papers of the large cities near you then you should find some agreeable prices. The bad news is that OES litters by non-commercial breeders are rare so be prepared to take some time to find one that works for you.

If you don't have to have a puppy, hit the rescue networks. My first OES was a 1 1/2 year old female. She became a wonderful family pet and by popular account she was a 'people dog' (preferred people to dogs). A resuce dog may take some time and special attention, but then so does a new puppy. Lots of people that visit this site have had very good experiences with rescue dogs.

Good luck with your search!
You should be sure to research the breed and make sure that the OES is the breed for you! Then, carefully research a breeder - and find a reputable breeder who breeds for the betterment of the breed - paying careful attention to the temperment and health!

You can go to www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamerica.org for a breeder referral or at least to learn more about the breed and how to find a reputable breeder (even if they aren't OESCA affiliated). You want to be sure all the proper testing has been done on the sire/dam.

I would encourage you to go the route of Rescue - but many rescues will not adopt out to a family with young children. Contact them regardless, they will be able to provide you with alot of information about the breed - and may be able to offer some suggestions for breeders (if they aren't able to place a Rescue with your family).

Please be sure to do the research - alot of the behavior and health problems are due to poor breeding practices. A reputable breeder will want to know what type of home their puppies are going to - they want to be there for you throughout the dog's life - they want to make sure their puppies will be well cared for. If a breeder is selling puppies over the internet to anyone with a credit card - I'd stay far away from them!

JMHO!
Kristen
It's my understanding that limited registration means offspring of the dog cannot be registered. When I got Lizzie, the breeder would only sell her with these restrictions. Not a big deal to me, we were only looking for a pet, not to breed. :D And she is the best-tempered dog I have ever been around!
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