Question for those involved in rescue (long, sorry)

I know this is more of an individual situation question, but I'm just curious.

For those of you involved in rescue on a pretty regular basis, is it easy to become bitter? And do you always assume the worst when a person has to give up their dog?

In my few personal instances of knowing someone who's had to give up their dog and have gone about it in the responsible way (ie, returning it to the shelter they adopted it from per the original adoption agreement), they've received less than friendly responses from the rescue people.

The latest instance...my friend adopted a collie mix puppy in January with her boyfriend. They adore her and they've taken her to puppy training and have taken excellent care of her. My friend recently found out she was pregnant. This was not in the plans for them, for at least another 2 years, which they figured would be perfect---their dog would be 3-ish and more calm, etc. Accidents happen and life didn't happen that way...she has no energy for the puppy and is worried about the nipping/jumping with a new baby and her fiance works a lot.

They just don't feel it is fair to keep the puppy if they can't give it the time and energy it needs. So the woman at the rescue sent her an email and it said (partly)
"Maybe I have the wrong person, but weren't you interested in adopting Roxy, one of your puppy's littermates, a couple of months ago. I guess it's lucky that you didn't adopt her too. I'm very very sad for your puppy; she was a border collie mix puppy when you adopted her, so the fact that she's turned into a border collie mix dog with border collie mix energy is not a surprise. Puppies are easy to find homes for; when they turn into adults, it's not nearly as easy a process.
Situations link this are precisely why we ask the questions on the application about whether you have any life changes coming up; to determine whether you're committed to this dog. A dog is a commitment for life, even if circumstances change. I'll hope you'll remember that before you decide to get another dog."

Does anyone else think this is particularly harsh for someone trying to do the right thing?
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I think that is harsh and a bit over the line. I do understand that rescue people must be so agitated and heartbroken all the time by all the people who treat their dogs poorly, but in a situation like this they really should be thankful that your friend was smart enough to give the puppy back instead of neglecting it or selling it in a paper.
I know on another board that I belong to, it is very obvious that some of the rescue people are really tired of hearing the same song and dance all the time from people and they often have responses similar to this for people who are giving up animals because of their own lack of planning.

I guess the way I look at it is, if I were to become pregnant, even if it were an accident, would I be able to get rid of any of my animals? Not a chance. With me, the dogs are like my kids. They really are a lifelong commitment and should be treated a such from the start. That's just how I feel.
Reality is harsh. I'm sure it was hard for your friend to hear, but it sounds like the truth to me. A dog isn't something you trade in like a car when your family situation changes.

I am not involved in rescue, but can see where the shelter lady is coming from. I am sure part of the lady was grateful that your friend contacted her to turn the dog in rather than neglecting it or abandoning it. The other part of her is probably disappointed, heartbroken and disgusted that now she has to try to place a dog AGAIN that could have been more easily placed with a furever family in the first place.

Part of her attitude may also have been to discourage your friend from adopting again...and then deciding again that the dog won't fit their lifestyle.
Hi Barney,

Sorry to say this but the rescue person was 1000% correct in her response and your friend is lucky the words weren't harsher. Yup, I know this is very unlike me as I generally have a happy disposition and am known for being polite but that rescue person KNOWS what will happen to that dog.

Ironically one of the secretaries at my school expressed interest in adopting a kitten recently and had told me of contacting the spca foster co-ordinator. Yikes you should have heard her ...her outrage at the questions THAT RESCUE WOMAN ASKED HER AND IT WAS JUST FOR A CAT!! She didn't have a sympathetic ear from me at all, while complaining of how could she possibly know what her circumstances would be like in a few years...she just wanted a kitten.

Finally I had enough of her banter..and simply responded. They have to ..as that cat's life depends on it. I'm sorry you feel insulted by the questions but if you happen to return that cat at even one year when it's no longer a cute kitten..chances are slim it may get adopted.

You see rescue people are those in the forefront of taking on other peoples "problems". If they didn't step up who is willing to take the responsibility? Although they had no initial bonding with that particular pet ..how does the former petowner expect other people to?

Rescues are very understanding if a particular pet doesn't mesh into a household and does want the animal back ..but seriously after 10 Months?

I quess these days I'm a very disheartened and completely understand how one gets so disillusioned by the endless cycle of pets in the shelters. I still have two foster cats in my home at the moment, both are recovering from recent kittens. These beautiful cats are both less than a year old and yet no one wants them!! Everyone wants kittens and puppies. That's why rescues and shelters have the wish that people know beyond any doubt that those that get adopted at that time will have a forever home and not be returned at even a year old.

I'm so sad by all the faces I see at the shelters and know that only 20% will find a home...for the rest of them it means their death. That is the reality of the situation. I wish I could hammer it into peoples heads..yes you might be insulted by the questions..yes you might feel you've been put through the third degree for "just" a cat or dog. But their life can possibly depend on it! The rescue person is fighting for that dog or cat to live in some ways.

You've actually caught me at a low point which again is very unusual for me. I'm a single parent and currently fighting pneumonia at the moment so my finances and energy are low..yet I will not and can't return these two fosters to the shelter at this time. Why? Just last week they put down 22 animals because the shelter is full. If I return the fosters now after bonding with them since August it may be a death sentence for them or of another to make room for these ones. I just can't do it !! I'm tired of people not taking responsibility for their pets and see them as throwaways.

If I can take on 9 of my own and 2 fosters on my single income then anyone can do it with two people in the household. It's a matter of priorities and what we consider important in life. Sorry I have no sympathy at all for your friend. That rescue woman knows the reality..for that dog to be returned means it or another may be put down as there is just not enough homes.

Marianne aka Grumpy
I don't think it was harsh at all.
If a person had a 2 year old child running around (tons of energy!) and found out they were pregnant, would they give up their toddler?
In most cases, people deal with it, or if they truly are unwell, they find help to care for their toddler and themselves...
I agree with alot of what is said here. I started off with one sheepie, and I had life changes, going from living with a boyfriend to living alone with a mortgage to pay on my own etc. I adapted my life around Max and wouldn't have it any other way. Then I got my rescue, Miller, when at the time I was making twice as much as I am now, but no matter what happens he is staying with me, even if it is financially very hard. i cant imagine anything changing so dramatically that would make me want to get give him back. Its tough, but I can't imagine what his life would be without me stepping up or if he would even have a life. There are times when I have to say no to a vacation, no to a new sofa, but at the end of the day, I'm happy I did it!
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I guess the way I look at it is, if I were to become pregnant, even if it were an accident, would I be able to get rid of any of my animals? Not a chance. With me, the dogs are like my kids. They really are a lifelong commitment and should be treated a such from the start. That's just how I feel.


That's kind of my response, and I have gotten upset at friends who have done the exact same thing. Others have given up their dog once the baby was born and felt their present well-loved dog was a burden and they couldn't play with it. A year later, they're pregnant again AND have a new puppy. I think in several cases, they didn't know or explore their options. Just made a quick decision. I do believe this isn't the case for everyone, but it's hard not to be judgemental.
We don't know the whole situation and we never will; I think the email was inappropriate for one reason only:

The goal of the rescue is to save dogs, and if by insulting someone a dog is not turned over to rescue and is either re-homed inappropriately or perhaps put down, then that would be a real shame. Plus, you just never know from where your next contribution might come.

It makes no sense from a "business" perspective to rant at someone like that, unless the intent is to deter them from buying another dog in the future. If that was the intent rather than a "venting," I'm all for it, but I don't think that was the case. What it sounds like is that this rescue worker was jabbing back at someone who had tried to adopt a rescue before and was truned down and had been unhappy about it.

But again, I don't know the whole or the real story, so it's all just guesswork on my part.
No sympathy here. Rescue is not a business. It is run by volunteers....volunteers who are tired, and worn-out, and stress-out and never see the end of the line of homeless animals.

I can't see why the dogs is being turned back when the couple didn't even try. If the pet owner is sick do they get rid of the dog? No. Here the poor dog that is comfortable in his "home" and with his "family" is being turned out because it "might" not work. Please.

Most rescues have a contract that the dog goes back to them, anyway, so the adoptive family did what they had to do. And yes, the email was definitely worded so that they would think about it next time they think about adopting a dog.

I have never placed a rescue dog with a young couple, newly married, or engaged for precisely this reason. Sorry, but most of the time the dog has gone through enough, and having to possibly adapt to a baby..when most rescues are adult...or possibly being returned...it is not right.

If a new couple goes and spends a LOT of money on a puppy, it is almost as if they really thought about the investment and will make it work. But the attitude that rescue dogs are not as good and didn't cost as much, makes it easier for them to be given up.

The rescue lady has learned a lesson and because of this there may be many other young, new couples that will be declined a dog in the future. Experience prevents a re-occurance.
I am assuming there was more to the e-mail than just this quote, but I can see why someone would be so disheartened. When you work hard to place a puppy or adult into a home you want the dog to have found it's "fur-ever" home, as we always say. I'm sorry, but if you are living with someone and pregnancy is a possibility, it should probably be taken into account. My husband and I aren't trying for a baby now, but if we get pregnant we aren't going to give Bingley back because we have made a commitment to him.

But to your question: is it harsh? Perhaps the author could have changed her tone a bit, but she probably wanted to say something a lot harsher than this, and the response sounds more curt than harsh to me. Although the part of the email we read sounded very chastising, I think it is understandable when you think of where the rescue worker is coming from. :(

Sometimes I think rescue groups should have a volunteer who just writes well-worded letters to people when the rescue worker is in a steam!!! :lol:
There was a poem on this site posted about I'm your puppy or something like that. Maybe it could be found and given to your friend. It had a lot of sentiment regarding this subject.


I think the rescue worker's words were well said. I think people that don't think twice about giving up a LIVING dog or animal need a wake up call. Animals are not DISPOSABLE! just because it might be a little more difficult or inconvenient. Also, nine months or whatever amount of time is a long way off and the puppy could be a lot more settled down by then. Didn't your friend consider the feelings of the dog? Dogs are so loyal and become attached. Just because it's a dog, that doesn't matter?

Also, what is trying to do the right thing? The right thing is different if you look at THE BIG PICTURE.

YOUR FRIEND COULD BE GIVING THIS DOG A DEATH SENTENCE!
Need more be said?

I'm sorry, but I am really upset about this.
Las Vegas Sheepie Lover wrote:
There was a poem on this site posted about I'm your puppy or something like that. Maybe it could be found and given to your friend. It had a lot of sentiment regarding this subject.



Vegas, I reposted that "I am your puppy" as a sticky in the Getting a Puppy section.
http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=10600
Pepsi's Mommy, thanks that is awesome and there's also another one that talks about people giving them up, really sad but states it in a beautiful way. It really makes you think.
Why are some folks always offended by the word "business", even after I put it in quotes?

Even though I put it in quotes to clearly set aside it's connotation with making money, Rescue is indeed a business. Big business. It's a critical business to it's customers (the dogs). The larger rescues (and many of the smaller ones too) are incorporated, have Officers and Boards of Directors, have a charter and a mission statement. And yes, rescues handle money, some rescues hand lots of money, and spend lots of money with "real" businesses.

In my personal opinion, if rescuers are so stressed, tired, burned out or whatever, that they cannot comport themselves in a manner that is respectful to all, then they should get out of the field. I don't think it does rescue as a whole any good to have people who are the face of rescue getting a reputation for being abusive to humans who turn to them for assistance.

This is the same principle that guides oes.org -- you can't teach people anything if they aren't here to listen and read. You can't teach people if there is animosity; even people who want to become backyard breeders are treated with courtesy and respect here because if they weren't, they wouldn't have the opportunity to learn, they would just leave. In fact we frequently find these folks are really well intentioned, and after being treated nicely and given a bit of knowledge about what they are about to undertake they sometimes change their minds.

I think that putting a dog at risk because of a need to feel superior to others and get in an "I told you so" or "you've made it a bad situation for the dog by doing this" is irresponsible to the dog and to the cause.

Just my opinion, which is worth exactly the same as anyone else's opinion.
Ron wrote:
Why are some folks always offended by the word "business", even after I put it in quotes?


I mentioned the "business", so I assume this comment is directed at me, so I will respond.....First I will say that I was not offended. Actually I was glad you brought it up so that I was able to clarify something.
Most businessed run because there is a profit to be made, and folks make their living running it. Many people do not know that rescues are volunteer, and the folks who run them have jobs, families, etc. and the rescue work is done in thier free time. So we were able to educate together.... :high5:

Ron wrote:

In my personal opinion, if rescuers are so stressed, tired, burned out or whatever, that they cannot comport themselves in a manner that is respectful to all, then they should get out of the field. I don't think it does rescue as a whole any good to have people who are the face of rescue getting a reputation for being abusive to humans who turn to them for assistance.


I agree with you. When dealing with situations that you don't agree with it is difficult to be obective, but it is best to just move on. I don't think this person was being abusive, though....a tad frustrated, yes, but she was polite and made her point.

Ron wrote:

Just my opinion, which is worth exactly the same as anyone else's opinion.


And also in my opinion, I think your opinion is worth more...speaking from a "business" point...... :wink:
Bosley's mom wrote:
Most businesses run because there is a profit to be made, and folks make their living running it. Many people do not know that rescues are volunteer, and the folks who run them have jobs, families, etc. and the rescue work is done in thier free time. So we were able to educate together.... :high5:
:high5:

Bosley's mom wrote:
And also in my opinion, I think your opinion is worth more...speaking from a "business" point...... :wink:
No way! I'm just the technogeek that tries to keep this thing up and running for more than a day at a time.
Although I don't agree with returning the puppy, the e-mail did seem harsh. Personally, if they weren't going to devote time, love, attention to the puppy, I'd hope that it can find a home that will. I guess it's better than putting the dog outside, never playing with it and feeding/watering it daily because it's a chore. That's not fair either. I couldn't give up my animals if I got pregnant, but maybe we don't know the entire story either? Honestly though, they're not 'possessions' to me, they're part of my family and I made a committment to them.
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"Maybe I have the wrong person, but weren't you interested in adopting Roxy, one of your puppy's littermates, a couple of months ago. I guess it's lucky that you didn't adopt her too.


Was this a true statement? If so, personally... I feel you can sense her anger, but she's trying to make a point. I feel good that Rescues get the chance to tell owners something they probably weren't told. The college board I go to is full of people who have returned their dogs, and everyone's response is "Oh, I understand. Must have been hard." While that's definitely true... a few of them have returned yet another dog when it's time to move into a new apt that doesn't accept dogs. What a burden for your friend and this lady to not only find a new home for her present dog, but a second dog.


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Situations link this are precisely why we ask the questions on the application about whether you have any life changes coming up; to determine whether you're committed to this dog.


When I worked at a pound, this is exactly what I would tell people that would come in. ...to caution people that sounded and looked like they really didn't think about all the responsibilities and the commitment before walking through the door. So again, I personally don't see what is harsh about this.


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A dog is a commitment for life, even if circumstances change. I'll hope you'll remember that before you decide to get another dog."


She's not telling them they should never own a dog, but something I feel everyone in the situation described should be told. I know I've said those words to many friends and random people. I always think, "if I don't, there's a good chance no one else will, and they'll do it again" Hopefully they don't, and most people never plan this to happen, but it may allow them to re-think getting another dog w/o thinking about EVERYTHING.



Your friend probably made the right decision for her family, but imo, of course most of the people on this board will think differently. How many of your friends and family are on dog boards before, during, and/or after work? None that I know. :P So....
The questioneer when we got Brees was kind of scary. It was VERY short.

Here's the gist of it...
Name, address, phone #, vet's name and number, current pets, where the dog will live (inside, outside running free, outside chained up, etc...), if our yard is fenced in, whether we own our home or rent, basic questions like that. It took all of 3 minutes to fill out, we paid for her, they gave us a puppy pack, and we left. That's it. I haven't even heard from them since we got her. We don't use our street address since the mail man won't deliver here, so I gave them my PO Box out of habit. They have no clue where I live if we weren't taking proper care of her even.

Anyone could go in, put in the right answers and get a dog regardless of the living situation.
I think that what the organization had to say was right, but whether they were right or not to say it is another thing, precisely because their success depends on people being willing and able to take the animals that they rescue: ie, the organization needs all the good will it can get, as well as money. Here, my concern is for the organization, and not for your friend's feelings, which is harsh of me, I agree.

On the other hand, your friend needs the wake up call: not everything in the world will revolve around her and her pregnancy, her child, or wedding or whatever other big event comes along. In fact, the demands on her and her boyfriend to be responsible adults just got much, much bigger. I know very well how overwhelming it is to find out you are pregnant a couple or three --or 10 years before you would have considered it a good idea to have a baby. But it was my job and my husband's job to make it work--which meant giving up a lot of things we really needed. Hopefully, their puppy will find a new home that will truly make him part of their family, even if life changes for them.

That said, there are circumstances that I think it is best to give up a puppy or even an older dog--namely, if health or financial circumstances are so dramatically altered that it is truly impossible to continue to provide a home for the dog. To me, an unexpected preganancy wouldn't be that circumstance. If the prospects for the poor puppy weren't so grim, realistically speaking, I'd say the puppy was probably better off without someone who would give him/her up so easily.

I know that was really a harsh thing to write. I can even understand your friend believing that it would be easier to find the puppy another home if they surrendered him sooner rather than later. I also understand the hormones, the worries about the pregnancy, about being a good enough mother, etc. I've been there a few times. That said, I think there might have been alternatives to surrendering the puppy.

Continuing puppy classes, with specific training regarding the new baby's arrival could have better prepared all of them to welcome the new baby. While reorganizing their life to accomodate the baby, they could have still accomodated a very energetic dog. Would the dog's life change? Sure it would, just as your friend's life will change, too, with or without a dog. But many people acquire dogs before they have their own children. It seems to work out well. I'm really amazed at my dogs' abilities to understand the limits and needs of the people around them.

In any case, I wish your friend well, even if I sounded really mean earlier.
I could see the shelter worker's frustration at having to take back the dog but the response was totally unprofessional.

In the short time I've been working with Rescue I've heard so many excuses for giving up a dog... and most of the time they're not even the truth. The surrendering owner just tells a story that sounds better than the actual reason they're giving the dog up.

Shelters and Rescues do get a lot of requests for puppies. Someone went to a lot of trouble to go through those applications, arrange home visits and make countless phone calls to find the perfect home. Now that the dog is older the number of applications decreases and the work starts all over again. I'd be upset but would think twice about taking it out on the surrendering owner. At least they're doing the right thing by taking it back to the shelter or rescue. They could be turning the dog out into the streets to die alone.
Thanks for all the responses, especially the ones that didn't mention whether or not you thought my friend was right or wrong in giving up her dog, but whether you found the email to her to be unprofessional and overly harsh.
Hi Barney,

Poor you (saying this in sympathetic way and not sarcastically) I realize you only asked a question and were bombarded with so many negatives ..myself included. I did read the response from the rescue and honestly couldn't find a harshness in it but only the truth. That's what's so hard about emails and the net is one is unable to hear the tone of voice. I can only get a sense of the frustration the rescue person feels by her response but she is being honest with your friend.

I suppose in some ways if the rescue responded ..of course we'll take her back, no problems..your friend would have felt much better. You also asked if rescues develope bitterness after a while and yes that is probably correct. They work in the trenches so to speak and while spca's are businesses, the rest of the volunteers or foster parents get no financial returns as a result. It's not about the money, as in my area fosters aren't even given any monies towards the upkeep of the animals they take. Being on the forefront one actually sees the faces and gets to know the animals which the general public doesn't want to think about that happens behind closed doors. They develope a bitterness, it would be impossible not to when they see so many healthy animals put down. The frustration becomes evident when hearing so many excuses as to why an animal can't be kept or is returned after bonding with a family.

This may have been your friends first experience with this and I can see why she was perhaps taken back with the response. For the rescue person this may have been the thousand times she has written a letter like it.

Egads, I'm doing it again - going off topic. Sorry about that! So after my long ramble I am still thinking that I don't see anything wrong with the response of the rescue.

Marianne and the boys
barney1 wrote:
Thanks for all the responses, especially the ones that didn't mention whether or not you thought my friend was right or wrong in giving up her dog, but whether you found the email to her to be unprofessional and overly harsh.


Oh, my. How insensitive, now that I read back. The thread kind of got off track. It is a friend of yours, making a difficult decision and that fact was completely disregarded. :oops: :oops: :oops:

I am truly sorry. We are here as support for each other, and not to judge each other's friends or family and the decisions they make.

So, if I can please start over? :plead:

I don't think the email was too harsh.

And BTW, I am sorry for the emotional termoil your friend must be going through at this time. :pupeyes:
Bosley's mom wrote:
......Oh, my. How insensitive, now that I read back........... I am truly sorry. We are here as support for each other, and not to judge each other's friends or family and the decisions they make.
So, if I can please start over? :plead:..........And BTW, I am sorry for the emotional termoil your friend must be going through at this time:pupeyes:


As one having given up dogs to rescue, I thank you for your post!

When faced with the possibility of having to surrender your dogs, just the thought is unbearable, going through with it's devastating! A life changing event! At least for some.

I understand why rescue and shelter volunteer's feel the way they do, I probably would too at times. But, the business of rescuing and its staff of volunteers should have only one common goal, the welfare of the animal, reguardless of why it ended up with them.

Sure, some will lie, it may be easier to tell a lie than to tell you the truth. Someone may tell you they have to move and the dog can't go, when in fact they may not be able to afford to care for it any more. Out of embarrassment they'd rather have you think bad of them for that, than to tell you they're too poor to take care of their family, let alone the dog.

The first thing mentioned about this friend was that she didn't have "the energy" to take care of the dog. The nipping/jumping was secondary. My first thought was that there may be a health issue involved, not "just" that she's pregnant.

Rescue workers need to remember that those of us put in a situation that required/s us to abandon our babies want to make sure they're going to good homes. We assume that since you're in the business of doing that, that bringing them to you would be the best, and safest way to ensure that, especially when time is working against us.

Your job is rescuing the animal, not judging the person or the reason why they're having to surrender the animal. Sure, questions are necessary for aiding in the placement of the dog, but not judgement. Suggestions for possibilities of fixing the problem are good, but not judgement if they aren't accepted.

The best thing for our babies is what we do. Not what's right for us, and reguardless of what you may think of us. Our stories may not make sense to you, sometimes they don't even make sense to us, how unfair life can be.......

You can say that you would never do it, but "you" don't know what you'll do until you're standing in those shoes, and have to ask yourself if you love them enough to let them go!

Was the email harsh? YES! Did she have a right to her opinions? YES Did she have a right to voice her opinion in that fashion? NO I know we didn't see the entire email, but did the volunteer even ask the woman about her health? Doesn't sound like it to me.
No offense meant. jmop
As for the email the rescue worker sent to my friend, the part I already put in this thread was the first 2 paragraphs (I only ommitted her name) and the 2nd two paragraphs only talked about how they aren't sure if they have any foster homes, etc....and just info about the process and how to get her up onto their website.

The part about the rescue woman asking if she was the same person who wanted to adopt the littermate--that part wasn't true. My friend and her fiance had just gone to visit at the shelter a few months after they adopted their dog to update the shelter on how well she was doing and her littermate was still there and it was one of those "Oh, I wish we could take her home too" kind of comments, but never a serious discussion with the shelter about adopting her.

And thanks, Mouthy, for putting in your experience on 'the other side' of what many people's thoughts have been on this subject.

My friend is very sad about this and it was after a lot of hard thought on it that they decided on this course of action. They didn't take adopting the puppy lightly--they were committed to her. And I know people out there will say, if they were committed, then how can a life change make them get rid of her. I understand all that. I guess she was just taken off guard when she was going through this emotional time and where she thought someone would respect her decision as a responsible one (and note I didn't she thought the woman would be all gushy and happy and thrilled about the issue), but she just felt attacked when all she wanted was her puppy to have a better life than she felt they could offer right now.
Just as a side thought, if she just found out she's pregnant...she has 9 mths to get this puppy adjusted to a baby.

She has 9 mths to teach and reinforce the commands she learned from obedience.

She could have the dog go to doggy daycare to get some much needed exercise, or hire a dog walker. Even a next door neighbour/teenager could be considered and make a little money.

She could figure out a way to walk the dog and take the baby in the stroller as well.

By the time the baby is mobile and in a position to pull ears...she could condition the dog by starting now to pull his ears etc...so that when the baby does it doesn't react.

Baby gates or a playpen for the baby to keep the two apart...so as they are never left together unattended.

Before they jump to this conclusion, consider that a 2 yr old dog will be better behaved...instead of feeling like a 8 week puppy is good for a 2 yr old child.

It's alot harder to bring a puppy into a home when you have ayoung child, then it is to have a dog already trained, housebroken, obedient..and then have a baby.

As for the rescue, she was not being to harsh. She was being dissapointed.

Good luck to your friend. I hope she has a healthy pregnancy.
She's already 14 or 15 weeks into the pregnancy. I know there are things to be done to train everyone for a new baby to come into the household, but that's not the point at the moment. I think the interaction with the dog is her least concern. They don't have a ton of extra money, so they can't take the dog to daycare and they don't know people in their neighborhood, so there's no one else to walk the dog, nor could they pay someone to do it.

She's just always tired and her fiance just got a promotion where he works even longer hours, but they need the extra $$ for the coming baby, so he has to work them, so she's the only one home most of the time (after working our 10 hour days), and she says she just can't physically handle the dog right now. Too tired to walk her, but then when she doesn't walk her she's full of puppy energy, so it's a vicious cycle of not enough exercise/nippy, crazy behavior and she knows that exercise is the answer, but she feels she can't do it.

Some people adapt to new situations better than others and some can handle more on their plate. She doesn't want to completely exhaust herself and make herself sick, which she feels she's close to...
I'm sorry your friend got the response she did when she was doing the responsible thing by trying to return her dog to a rescue where the dog is known rather than just dumping it off at the pound. Right now she has to take care of herself and her baby and only she can decide what is right for her and her family. Of course we all know she would not try to return a toddler if she had one and got pregnant...but that didnt happen...she has a DOG, it isnt working out for her it is better if a more suitable home can be found for her dog instead of having a dog that she has no time for and eventually resents. No one has to right to judge her until they are in her shoes. I hope everything turns out for the best for your friend.
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